Hi Andreas,

Andreas Enge <andr...@enge.fr> writes:

Hello,

a somewhat tangential question, since in any case Gnome is an important part of our system: Can we make it easier for a user to get rid of
everything Gnome?

Are you thinking this would be an option in the installer? Or an easier way to remove GDM from %desktop-services so you can add your preferred DM?

Personally I chose the XFCE desktop (but might also be happy with others, such as KDE or LXQT), but I think GDM is still required as the
login manager.

It’s the default on amd64; all other architectures default to SDDM. Neither are required. LightDM is also supported.

So here are a list of questions:
Is it possible to choose a desktop/graphical environment for which I
would not need GDM and all the complications this is pulling in?

I’m not sure what the question here is or how it’s different from your first one.

Can I choose the login manager separately from the desktop environment
(KDM, XDM)?

You can already do this by specifying system services yourself or modifying %desktop-services, but it is fairly involved for a new user, and isn’t an option in the installer. What mechanism to choose do you think would be helpful here?

If yes, should the default for xfce-desktop-service-type be changed
(why GDM and not XDM)?

XDM isn’t packaged and there’s no xdm-service-type.

Should it become an entry in the xfce-desktop-configuration record?
If not, can we somehow get there?

I’m not sure this is possible or desirable. There’s a fundamental 1:N relationship between dm and desktop -- I can have SDDM as the DM, which lets me log into a KDE or XFCE session. If the DE service-types are providing the DM, you can only have one of them on a system, and this becomes impossible.

 -- Ian

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