Hi all,
On 7/6/26 22:42, Ludovic Courtès wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> Greg Hogan <[email protected]> skribis:
>
>>> It seems safer to me to come up with a GCD defining a new policy
>>> whenever we have input that calls for a change. It forces us to
>>> have a discussion on how to address these changes.
>>
>> The GCD process requires 100% consensus for every change.
>
> (Nitpick: it requires *building* consensus, which is not the same as
> achieving unanimity on someone’s proposal.)
>
> I’m well aware that the GCD process is difficult, as you can imagine.
> On the plus side, I think it’s likely going to be easier to build
> consensus on updated rules two years from now because we’ll have more
> insight.
Getting a new GCD to amend GCD 008 seems very tough to achieve.
Let me quote this discussion from April:
On 2026/04/05 04:36, Ian Eure wrote:
>
> Greg Hogan <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Guix needs more automation to be sustainable. A visceral minority
>> opposition to AI may kill the project.
>
> It won’t, but I’d rather see Guix die a hero than live a villain.
Revisiting this GCD seems impossible to me when there are people in the
community who rather have Guix die.
However, I also don't believe in Greg's suggestion for an expiration
date after a year, because the people who care about genAI will have
already left by then, since a year is very long given how fast genAI
evolves.
I believe our project to be way to small to permit ourselves the luxury
of an AI policy that is much stricter than other projects. The GCD will
not lure in people longing to do manual package maintenance. So the
only long term outcome I can see is that the project as-is will die.
(And I don't expect a better "guix refresh" to be feasible; I'd be
happily proven wrong though, and will do my part to get there.)
Nevertheless, I guess the GCD is 'acceptable', because we currently
still have almost enough people willing to do package maintenance by
hand, and if/when those people retire (succumb to the load) we can still
do agentic maintenance in non-official channels.
Hugo
