Leo Simons wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

To solve the centipede problem @ apache: simply make the gump repo a requirment for building the project! That might also help 'edjucate' ignorant developers (like, until recently, me) about the wonders and importance of gump.

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Doesn't it also have to work?

Nicola, I'm really not trying to make your life harder, or make your job on centipede more difficult. Really. But fact-of-the-matter, right now, and for the past few months, the avalon peeps (including you and me) have been terrible at maintaining gump descriptors (or even the build process), and until I see things work differently (I've been trying) I'm thinking along the same lines Sam is.
For Avalon, as for any *Ant* project, now that Gump is open to all Apache, I agree. I have in fact moved now the descriptor back in Gump CVS.

My point is about *Centipede* projects. POI now builds fine with Gump, and it uses Centipede.
If Centipede makes it compulsory to have a descriptor just to do normal builds, I reckon that putting the descriptor in Gump CVS is not needed, and even, as I'm trying to suggest, a problem.

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Honestly, Leo, imagine you're a Centipede developer. And you want to give an easy build system to your users. Do you really think that your proposal is a real solution?

well, no (and it's not to be taken as a proposal ;). But it is the easiest thing that could possibly work (in that I could probably set it up). I'm totally supportive for real solutions, but I'm okay with hacky solutions until those real solutions arrive (to paraphrase Berin "waiting until the next release of [the maven and centipede] projects").
Yes, I agree too. I was thinking about the conceptual idea of having descriptors for Centipede projects in Gump CVS, and how this would make things difficult for Centipede projects.

Look at it from my perspective too.
I am, I am!
:-)

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