I'd *really* appreciate feedback on these thoughts. If you only answer one mail from me, please make it this one. The topics are:
1) Sanity check on what I'm doing w/ Gump (or hoping to) 2) Internal Community 3) External community First, I'd like to solicit some constructive feedback (and I'm not the type that looks for/wants pats on the back, I mean constructive). Also, I'd like to hear if you -1/-0/0/+0/+1 where I am trying to take Python Gump, and if (some time in the future) you could support Traditional Gump being replaced by it. (Don't forget, I am new to Jakarta, so I don't know if there is a process for what I am asking here. If anybody would like to tweak what I'm asking, please do.) Along these lines, could I get vote-style feedback on: *Python Gump (as a future replacement for traditional Gump) *Python Gump using Forrest *Gump Statistics (as a tool for automatically communicating reuse/reliability/robustness, etc.) *Gump and Ruper (using Ruper to download packages) *Distributed Gump Trees (also using Ruper to download upstream Gump outputs) *Gump Documenter (as a tool for communicating the OSS map, and promoting) *Promoting more gump projects in public Gump (do resources exist, will the 7+++ hours grate on Stefan?) *Promoting more public/private/personal Gumps. *Promoting more OSS Gumps (e.g. on SF.net. on Java.net, etc.) Questions: Anybody got any other itches they'd like to see scratched by Gump? I'm not volunteering, per se, just curious. Second, internal community: I've asked for help on forrest, and on CVS, and on a number, and folks haven't had time to help me. That is ok, that happens. Also, I fear I contribute to it, by having enough time (right now) to dig in incessantly. I don't want to discourage community, I welcome/want that, and I don't know if I am helping it, or not. That all said, I need to make value judgements. The stats from the votes above will tell me a lot, but I need to figure out a what point I've contributed to Python Gump's momentum, and if it has critical mass. I am game for the long haul (family/life/work willing) but [like Sam] I don't want to take the Gumpy journey alone. Further, I don't want to do what nobody else wants, nor will use. Gump is incredibly valuable, I have no doubts about that, but it mustn't stagnate w/o reaching it's potential. I see folks commit time to configure projects, I see folks benefit from the outputs. That said, how do we promote a community of folks who care enough to maintain the service? I think too many people don't know Gump, nor it's potential, they just expect the service (like they do CVS). Is there a way we can make a concerted effort to promote Gump, and request developers? Thoughts? Third, external community: External community is key, and I see Gump as closed to those 300 or so modules it supports. Ought we propose a Gump on SF.net, or on java.net, or wherever? I think Gump's strengths are best felt with a large profile, so much as the GUI Gump is cool, I think big public Gumps are invaluable. Has anybody suggested a Gump on SF.net to SF.net, to others? Now that Gump is far easier to install (than when Andy Oliver tried) it really ought be possible for folks to have their own. Is this a good thing for future Gump? What do folks think about Gump's future, about what it ought be trying to be, about who it ought be targeted at? Thanks in advance for all responses. regards Adam -- Experience Sybase Technology... http://www.try.sybase.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
