On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Adam R. B. Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Some good & sensible advice/pointers, thanks. I can see that there
> is a time not to collaborate, it can slow/mis-focus or just plain
> frustrate, but I'm not sure that is the case here.

I'm not convinced that Gump and Maven try to adress the same problem
domain, but this may be due to my lack of knowledge about Continuum.

The main goal of Gump is to build everything against the latest of
everything, for some reason I doubt that this is true for Continuum.
I expect it more like build everything against the latest released
version of everything (or even against the wished for version).

> At least 151 of the 400+ projects in public Gump appear to be
> Mavenized, so maybe it is just time to throw Apache support fully
> behind Maven, convert the rest, and start working cohesively.

What if projects don't want to switch?  Drop them from Gump?

> Gump, on the other hand, has not had the support (of late) that it
> could.

It never had.  It has always been just a hand-full of people actively
maintaining it, this probably won't change.

It is a little difficult for me to share your frustration.  The mere
existance of Continuum (once it exists) won't take away any value from
Gump.

Don't expect Ant to stop development just because Microsoft has come
up with a build tool that parsers XML files to run tasks that are
nested into targets ...

8-)

Stefan

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