Onno Meyer wrote:

Call it up to -20 or -25 for a sub at 500m in the deep ocean or near the bottom anywhere else - as the bottom depth and hence the maximum dive depth goes up, the water becomes murkier, too . A ladar with 500 miles nominal range should do the job if there is no stealth.

Not exactly. That -20 is an obscurement modifier; it stacks with range modifiers. A 500 mile range sensor (scan 27) would have a minimum penalty of -34 (-14 for 500 yards range, -20 for obscurement) for a net modifier of -7, and that's if you already pretty much know the exact position of the sub.
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