Shawn Fisher wrote:
Just because a country has the resources doesn't mean that it has the vision, 
the political ability,
or cultural stability to achieve greatness...or even reliable running water and 
electricity.

Kurt, the technology does not exist in a bubble somehow removed from all of the 
above. I'm not arguing about Trav or GURPS tech level business.
I'm arguing against the ridiculous idea that knowledge _alone_ is enough to change societies. Geez, 
look at the US and its nonsensical "policies" that exist entirely independent of TL. Sad 
as it is, no amount of engineers and references libraries can make societies "pony up" 
the means to reach new technologies. That requires PR, marketing, political investment, political 
stability, an educated and motivated workforce, ample natural resources, etc. If so, TL must then 
embody more than just material culture, eh?

Since we're living in a true "Learn by doing" environment, we really don't know. Some societies, Somalia to use your example, just don't have the stability to do anything but implode. Other countries, Indonesia and Malaysia for example, have done nothing but expand, grow, and develop over the last sixty years. We have a lot of policies that border (and cross well over into) the "beyond stupid" category. I won't dispute that. "New Technology" is a combination of a lot of different things. Until the last century, aluminum was difficult to produce. Then there was a discovery and it became easy to make. The uses of aluminum had been known for some time, but until it became commercially viable, it was more a curiosity than something useful. Take that discovery back to 1700 and it's highly likely that aluminum would have been used more often and some of the routes of expansion would have been changed to locate sources of ore and other raw materials necessary.

In the end, I think you're both right, just looking at things from different points of view and without including the other's POV into the equation.

Kurt

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Kurt Feltenberger
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