Hollywierd they do call it, need not be logically. Or why they call it soft 
sci-fi and not hard.

But yes, possible what would not kill us, or only make us sick, might not 
effect an alien race.

Or see Pandora, the atmosphere density but also what else is in the atmosphere 
that might cause issues, and not kist viruses and bacteria? Allergic to what 
else?

Would make for a wierd movie of an alien race that falls cause its allergic to 
something we take for granted? 

Hot stuff today seem to be Transformers and Vampires, so what about 
transforming aliens who are vampires or what? Need not be organic vampires, 
just the romantic/brutal nature of vampirism? Hope for eternal life but also 
the beastual nature of the whole act of becoming and being one? 

Hum (Writer's guide to creating a science fiction universe by George Ochoa and 
Jeffrey Osier.).. Idea for sure? 

Mike

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mic 
  To: Abrigon Gusiq 
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 4:18 PM
  Subject: Re: World Ships Re: Colony ship lost




          Any species high enough to develop ID4 ships was high enough to 
develope anti-disease protocols and how alien would a source code be? Plot 
devices beside the point.

          Mike



          I kinda disagree ( respectfully of course), Look at War of the 
worlds, they had impressive tech ( almost on the same level as ID4 aliens, 
force fields, anti gravity, disintegration rays ) that laid waste to us and 
they where taken down by the smallest thing on the planet. And they where from 
our solar system and had almost the same kinda elemental make up.


           just because you mastered interstellar travel don't mean you have 
the tech to protect your self from disease.  You could filter the water and 
air, and could possible have a pill that could counter the effects of native 
bacteria, but it could have side effects that would be worse if that bacteria 
mutated with the help of said pill. Becoming something more deadly.


          Plus if your a super advance race with tech to travel through the 
galaxy taking anything you want, armed with force fields, machines that can 
pull massive G's with no harm to the occupants, anti gravity drive to keep your 
massive ships hovering over targets. then it would be very improbable to have 
your computer systems hack by the knuckle dragging apes of a backwater planet.


           given the time frame of the attack, and the complexity of the alien 
language, there was no way that we could have decoded and figure out there 
operating systems and write a virus to take them out before they blasted us.


           ( and it's just not my hatred of ID4 plot holes ,that are as big as 
the inside of a Tardis, in my op, plus the ending, you can imaging how much one 
of the mother ships weighed, when the gravity control failed you know that they 
would hang in space just as a brick does (hehehe i finally get to use Addams 
line hehehehe), with that much mass slamming down, and it would cause( if the 
control where destroyed ( the chances of hard wired safties cutting in to float 
the ships down, would never have a chance with no power to help)) it would 
cause massive earth quake in some places. after all they where just a few miles 
up, close enough to build up speed and to short a time for safty equipment to 
kick in) but I have ranted enough on ID4 hehehe on to others.


           The main motive behind V was that they wanted us for food and they 
wanted the earths water ( the same as ID4 I know), I believe it would have made 
a great plot hook that the V had been here in our pre history and had tinkered 
with our DNA to make a better feeding stock, especcially now that almost half 
the world population are plumping up rapidly. And it would also explain alot of 
Lizard man type myths and legends.


          Know why do I like one and not the other, with the V plot hook they 
would have been here almost since the world cooled down and life evolved, while 
the other one just got here around the time of roswell ( it was there scout 
that crashed like the film states). given both time frames the longer the time 
you have contact with the target planet and the more visits you have you could 
over come all bugs on the planet that where harmfull to you.


           if you havent seen MegaZone 23 find it, it was another series that 
was stolen to creaet robotech ( I say stolen cause they ditched the original 
story, hacked it up to fit in like they did with Mospeada and southern cross. 
To this day Carl Macek is a hated man.) 
           Boy meets girl, boy finds top secret transformable motorcycle, boy 
finds out his world is really a lie and living on a ship in space and that the 
Pop idol singer was really a computer simulation of the ships computer being 
manipulated by those in charge to keep folks happy and distracted while they 
carried out there own plans. And that the other ship computer is trying to 
destroy them.


           I got to see it like a few months after it was released because I 
had a cousin in Japan sending me anime. This was in the late 80's when anime 
could only be gotten by pen pals and friends in japan. it was in japanese with 
no subtitles and it inspired us to try and learn japanese in order to figure it 
out.




           like Ben Bova said, theres a big difference between a Sci-fi flick 
and a science fiction movie. ( sci-fi= big oohs and ahhs very little science 
Science fiction=less oohs and ahhs and more realistic science)


          if you havent had the chance to read Ben Bova's serries on writting ( 
Space travel, alien and alien societies ) he covers alot of great points. I 
also recomend Writer's guide to creating a science fiction universe by George 
Ochoa and Jeffrey Osier.  I found these books very very helpful.


          Intresting side note Bova was a science consultant on The starlost 
but left after the first episode ( Wiki Ben Bova )




          Okay I 've ranted long enough.


          Mic

       

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