I also had Elliquence on my Braille Note M Power, but got tired of carrying
the Braille Note around. Then, I used the Voice sense to carry books around
which was all right in its own way, and if I travel or need to take notes
where I don't wish to take my laptop, I will pile the Voice Sense into my
purse because it is small. In fact, I should sit down with that and work
with it because I haven't been using it very much lately, and you do forget
how when you don't stay with it.

Dianne

-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Kiehne [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense?

Well, there is an option for those of you who want Eloquence.  It's called 
the Icon or Braille plus.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "EVAN REESE" <[email protected]>
To: "GW-micro" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense?


> Well, that just goes to show that people have different preferences, and 
> that's fine. My girlfriend started out reading books from Bookshare on her

> Book Sense, first with Kate, then with Paul. But she quit after a few 
> books, saying that if she was going to listen to audio books with 
> synthesised speech, she would rather listen to her JAWS with Eloquence 
> instead of Kate or Paul. She does a lot of proofreading for Bookshare on 
> her PC, so she has definitely gotten accustomed to, and even to like, 
> Eloquence and doesn't read anything nonhuman-read on her Book Sense 
> anymore.
>
> By the way, I misspoke earlier: I should have said that the pitch of the 
> Book Sense jumps around even within individual syllables, not within 
> individual words. It's natural for pitch to jump around within words. The 
> description I was looking for last night of how Paul sounds to me came to 
> me after I posted my last message. He reminds me of a tape with a good 
> deal of wow and flutter in it. That makes him harder to understand at 
> higher rates of speech where the smoother Eloquence is still intelligible.
>
> As to resources, I thought the Kate and Paul voices were more resource 
> intensive than Eloquence, although I may be misremembering something here.
>
> Evan
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Missy Hoppe" <[email protected]>
> To: "Booksense Support" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense?
>
>
>> very well said. The speech on the Booksense is about as pleasant as a tts

>> voice can be, but I'm still one of those who, given the choice, prefers 
>> human narrators whenever possible. I don't understand all the praise for 
>> eloquence, though. I use it on my computer due to high speeds and being 
>> responsive, but for a reading device like the booksense, it definitely 
>> wouldn't be my first choice. As great as it is, it just sounds to 
>> mechanical for pleasure reading. Still, for my main computer, it's the 
>> only realistic option for daily use, and since I've been reading a lot of

>> fan fiction lately, I've somewhat gotten used to the way eloquence reads,

>> but I'd still never want it for the booksense.
>> Just my opinion, of course.
>> Missy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <[email protected]>
>> To: "'EVAN REESE'" <[email protected]>; "'GW-micro'" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:33 AM
>> Subject: RE: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense?
>>
>>
>> I think the reason we don't see something like Elliquence is that there 
>> is
>> only so much memory to hold what is necessary to generate speech and 
>> sounds
>> on a divice the size of the Book Sense. After my disappointment with the
>> Victor Reader stream, I am amazed the Book Sense is as good as it is.
>>
>> Having said that, there are people among us who simply are not 
>> comfortable
>> reading with the speech synthesizer. Two of my friends, people I have 
>> known
>> for many years, simply won't tolerate anything that isn't human narrated,
>> and that's ok. Reading needs to be something comfortable and as long as
>> there are choices, there is certainly nothing wrong with opting for
>> digitally recorded material rather than speech synthesis.
>>
>> Dianne
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EVAN REESE [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:22 PM
>> To: GW-micro
>> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense?
>>
>> True, human readers mispronounce things, but my Window Eyes with 
>> Eloquence
>> mispronounces a lot less than the voice on my Book Sense. I wish they 
>> would
>> have just installed Eloquence on the Book Sense. It's very understandable

>> at
>>
>> high rates of speech and it has substantially better pronunciation than
>> what's in there now.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Dianne B. Phelps" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense?
>>
>>
>>> Don't change the voices!  They're great!
>>>
>>> They mispronounce words, but so do human readers!  A human reader should
>>> know better, but some people never learned phoenics.
>>>
>>> Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
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