I figure when my buttons where out, I'll just get a replacement, and perhaps, by then, GW will have an even better model for us.
Dianne -----Original Message----- From: EVAN REESE [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 2:08 PM To: GW-micro Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? Absolutely! I want to say that while I have found things that could use improvement, not only with the speech synthesis, but with other things, I have had my Book Sense for nearly eight months now and I use it every day. (I sometimes ask myself how many pushes these buttons are good for before they wear out.) I really like it a lot. I use it for music, NLS and RFB&D books, and making recordings. I think it's a great little device and the money I paid for it was very well spent. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <[email protected]> To: "'Robert C'" <[email protected]>; "'Russ Kiehne'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? > This is true, Robert. We live in a time where we do have choices unlike > the > old days with the heavy record players and heavy boxes of books on > records. > Who would have thought we would have had what we do now. None of it is > 20/20, but I will take what it does do and am thrilled with it. > > Dianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert C [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:12 AM > To: Russ Kiehne; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? > > Excatly. Its fascinating the wide range of opinions on this subject. > We can vener be satisfied, can we? ;) Even if there was such a device > that > > met ALL the needs of any one individual, it still would be missing on some > points. Here is the bottom line. We do have a wide range of products to > choose from. Pick and choose and be happy for where would we be without > the > > technology today? > > Quote of the nanosecond. . . > Computer programmers don't byte, they nibble a bit. > Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn > E-mail- > [email protected] > Home Page- > http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 AM > Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? > > >> Well, there is an option for those of you who want Eloquence. It's >> called > >> the Icon or Braille plus. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "EVAN REESE" <[email protected]> >> To: "GW-micro" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:26 AM >> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? >> >> >>> Well, that just goes to show that people have different preferences, and >>> that's fine. My girlfriend started out reading books from Bookshare on >>> her Book Sense, first with Kate, then with Paul. But she quit after a >>> few > >>> books, saying that if she was going to listen to audio books with >>> synthesised speech, she would rather listen to her JAWS with Eloquence >>> instead of Kate or Paul. She does a lot of proofreading for Bookshare on >>> her PC, so she has definitely gotten accustomed to, and even to like, >>> Eloquence and doesn't read anything nonhuman-read on her Book Sense >>> anymore. >>> >>> By the way, I misspoke earlier: I should have said that the pitch of the >>> Book Sense jumps around even within individual syllables, not within >>> individual words. It's natural for pitch to jump around within words. >>> The > >>> description I was looking for last night of how Paul sounds to me came >>> to > >>> me after I posted my last message. He reminds me of a tape with a good >>> deal of wow and flutter in it. That makes him harder to understand at >>> higher rates of speech where the smoother Eloquence is still >>> intelligible. >>> >>> As to resources, I thought the Kate and Paul voices were more resource >>> intensive than Eloquence, although I may be misremembering something >>> here. >>> >>> Evan >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <[email protected]> >>> To: "Booksense Support" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:20 AM >>> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? >>> >>> >>>> very well said. The speech on the Booksense is about as pleasant as a >>>> tts voice can be, but I'm still one of those who, given the choice, >>>> prefers human narrators whenever possible. I don't understand all the >>>> praise for eloquence, though. I use it on my computer due to high >>>> speeds > >>>> and being responsive, but for a reading device like the booksense, it >>>> definitely wouldn't be my first choice. As great as it is, it just >>>> sounds to mechanical for pleasure reading. Still, for my main computer, >>>> it's the only realistic option for daily use, and since I've been >>>> reading a lot of fan fiction lately, I've somewhat gotten used to the >>>> way eloquence reads, but I'd still never want it for the booksense. >>>> Just my opinion, of course. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "'EVAN REESE'" <[email protected]>; "'GW-micro'" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:33 AM >>>> Subject: RE: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? >>>> >>>> >>>> I think the reason we don't see something like Elliquence is that there >>>> is >>>> only so much memory to hold what is necessary to generate speech and >>>> sounds >>>> on a divice the size of the Book Sense. After my disappointment with >>>> the >>>> Victor Reader stream, I am amazed the Book Sense is as good as it is. >>>> >>>> Having said that, there are people among us who simply are not >>>> comfortable >>>> reading with the speech synthesizer. Two of my friends, people I have >>>> known >>>> for many years, simply won't tolerate anything that isn't human >>>> narrated, >>>> and that's ok. Reading needs to be something comfortable and as long as >>>> there are choices, there is certainly nothing wrong with opting for >>>> digitally recorded material rather than speech synthesis. >>>> >>>> Dianne >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: EVAN REESE [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:22 PM >>>> To: GW-micro >>>> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? >>>> >>>> True, human readers mispronounce things, but my Window Eyes with >>>> Eloquence >>>> mispronounces a lot less than the voice on my Book Sense. I wish they >>>> would >>>> have just installed Eloquence on the Book Sense. It's very >>>> understandable at >>>> >>>> high rates of speech and it has substantially better pronunciation than >>>> what's in there now. >>>> >>>> Evan >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Terri Pannett" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "Dianne B. Phelps" <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:48 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [GW-Booksense] new voices for the booksense? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Don't change the voices! They're great! >>>>> >>>>> They mispronounce words, but so do human readers! A human reader >>>>> should >>>>> know better, but some people never learned phoenics. >>>>> >>>>> Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. >>>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>> sender >>>>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message >>>>> is >>>>> related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending >>>>> your >>>>> message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>> sender >>>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message >>>> is >>>> related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your >>>> message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: >>>> >>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>> >>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>> sender > >>>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message >>>> is > >>>> related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your >>>> message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: >>>> >>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>> >>>> >>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>> sender > >>>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message >>>> is > >>>> related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your >>>> message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>>> >>>> To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: >>>> >>>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>>> >>> >>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >>> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message is >>> related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your >>> message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>> >>> To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: >>> >>> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >>> >> >> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender >> only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message is >> related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your >> message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >> >> To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: >> >> http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv >> > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message is > related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your > message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender > only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message is > related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your > message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. > > To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: > > http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message is related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list andyour message is related to GW Micro or the BookSense, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. To manage your subscription to gw-booksense, visit: http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv
