Of course you can say that one is better than another. It's true that mileage varries from situation to situation, but when you see 5 or 10 machines a week you can compair notes over the long hall and say, "this software performs better", or "this software doesn't stack up as well". When it comes to digital voices there's the issue of how well the speech is put together. Realspeak for example is extremely choppy compaired with acapella and loquendo, why? It was built back in the early 90's, when the personal computer looked a lot different than it does now. Modern voices do a more intuitive job of actually putting the speech together than clasic ones and they do it with a smaller footprint. Realspeak is practicly vintage. There's also the issue of pronounsiation, and how many words does one engine mispronounce vs another one. How well does one handle inflection vs another? I like acapella because of it's inflection, but It's not great on pronounsiation as these things go. My point is these are all concreet things you can measure and say, "this one's better than that one".

Now, you may have a preference for the sound of a particular voice. You may need a voice with a sharper or flater tone. You may not like voices with heavy bass or light trebbel. You may need it in loud situations where a crisper voice is better, or you may need it through headphones where a softer voice is better. All subjective points.

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On 30-Jun-08, at 6:55 AM, Bruce Toews wrote:

Two things. First, voices are so incredibly subjective. I personally
think the A Capella voices sound absolutely horrid, and that the
Realspeak voices sound much better. The other thing worth noting is that
sluggishness tends to vary from machine to machine for no real reason.
But you couldn't pay me to use the a capella voices for anything other
than a lesson in how not to design s voice. But that's my personal
opinion only and I know there are some people who absolutely love them.
But to flat-out say that one is better than another is not an accurate
statement.

bruce


On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:21:19 +0100, "Steve Nutt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
Hi,

Sorry, I have to disagree here about the quality of Realspeak voices.
They
are so unbelievably sluggish that it is just not worth it. Acapela is
far
better and has a smaller memory footprint.

Yes, it is cop protected, but it is quality.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Raul A. Gallegos'; 'GW Info Discussion List'
Subject: Re: window-eyes and the loquendo voices

For the really high quality voices, I think my favorites are the real
speak
voices from nuance. The acapela voices are good, but they use a copy
protection scheme that ties the license to a certain computer, I refuse
to
purchase copy protected software when I can avoid it.
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Hi Raul,

They are nowhere near as good or responsive as the Acapela voices. I
wouldn't bother mate. <Smile>.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday 27 June 2008 20:19
To: GW Info Discussion List
Subject: Re: window-eyes and the loquendo voices

This is interesting seeing is how the company charges thousands of
dollars to use their high tech voices. So, if an end user has them,
either the end user works for a large company who can shell out the
bucks, or the end user got them via shadowy means. I too would be
interested in this because I've heard recordings of some of these voices are they are pretty good if you will be using them for slower reading. I
would not recommend them at higher speeds though.

erik burggraaf said the following on 6/27/2008 3:46 PM:
Hi Josh, where did you buy loquendo voices?  I emailed the company
yesterday morning to ask where to buy since the loquendo website is
basicly for developers, but they haven't responded.

best,

Erik
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On 27-Jun-08, at 9:33 AM, Josh wrote:

Hi,
I am having a problem with the loquendo voices. When I choose them
from the window-eyes control panel, the voices do not load and I get
no speech until I switch back to eloquence with the beta. But if I
choose loquendo from the windows control panel under the text to
speech tab under speech, then loquendo voices talk in there. Also, the ScanSoft voices speak just fine under window-eyes, so why not loquendo?

Josh

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