Window-Eyes has problems handling a large number of a combination
read-only controls and edit boxes open at once, and one of the nice
things about Eudora which many blind people don't take advantage of
is that, if you've filters which place messages in mailboxes for you,
and the auto-open feature is checked in options, when new mail comes
in, it is put directly to the left of where you're currently reading.
If you have Eudora auto-close mailboxes with messages checked under
tools and options, then when you're done reading a particular mailbox
of messages sorted by topic, messages from lists, which I do, for
example, the next newest topic of messages auto-opens and you're
placed, if not on top, then in the place you last left off. If, in
Eudora, you attempt to edit a filter setting, write a reply message,
or create a message, with all this going on, Window-Eyes hiccups,
gets inordinately slow, and just is more of a pain to use. Jaws has
no such problems either focusing on what you're writing, or even
telling you which mailbox has focus by name since when you press
control-tab or control-shift-tab, the windows change and you're
focused on a new mailbox and jaws speaks it's name. Not Window-Eyes,
or, can Window-Eyes maintain focus on a particular message when new
mail is processed, even with all background tasks unchecked to
display. Window-eyes works fine with one mailbox open, one message at
a time, no problems, but hey, I am a multi-tasker and power user,
taking advantage of this mailers capabilities to handle all my mail,
so I've probed the weakness of Window-Eyes and this program, and have
often written about it, and can aptly demonstrate to all and sundry,
but apparently no one else uses Eudora like I do, so when you have
many messages open as you do and run into a similar problem from
another perspective and point it out I empathize, but doubt whether
GW-Micro will take any interest since their interest is in
Thunderbird, which has it's own issues, plug-ins, and yet, does not
nearly have the usability as Eudora or PM-Mail, or Courier or
Calypso, superior email clients, all, except that they don't handle
new aspects of mail servers, or in the case of PM-mail, html
well, which are coming into vogue, so they are, for all intents and
purposes, ignored. Window-Eyes barely supports windows live mail, and
that one deserves more attention than Thunderbird because of it's
ability to handle the hot-mail accounts which I hear will not be
handled much more than beyond the end of the year by Outlook Express,
so it is a bit of a quandary for GW-Micro, which to turn their
support onto. Eudora is no longer a concern for Qualcomm, and Eudora
8, you may as well be running Thunderbird.
Curtis Delzer
At 09:20 PM 7/1/2008, John G wrote:
I have been using Eudora for nearly 10 years with Window-eyes and
none of the problems you've stated sound familiar. I am typing this
message in a Eudora message edit box without needing to redraw or do
anything to keep the text visible.
I don't wish to intrude but why would you want to open a large
number of messages at the same time? I may have got this wrong.
Perhaps you could explain in more detail what it is you want to achieve.
For me Window-eyes 7 has made using Eudora an even faster and more
comfortable experience. It is a shame you're having these problems
but I have my doubts about the notion that window-eyes 7 is the sole
cause of them all.
take care
John
At 03:00 02/07/2008, you wrote:
I'm just wondering if the situation with Eudora is so dire that I
am really just going to have to throw in the towel, or is there a
chance that it's chances with the next beta are good, and that
might be redeemable.
I have previously spoken about problems opening a large number of
messages for reading, and how it causes a form of congestion (the
only way I know to describe it) that causes one to have to close a
number of messages before WE7 Beta even starts to speak again. Now
I have to report that I have to redraw the screen time and time
again while typing in the message editor, making it a real chore to
use the program at all.
I mean, if it is really necessary for me to use another mail client
in order to meet the future head on with Window-Eyes, then I guess
I'll have to bite the bullet and move to Thunderbird or
something, but I really don't want too. Eudora does all I need for
a mail client to do, and if it wasn't for this situation, I would
just stay right where I'm at, to be colloquial <g>.
Anyway, would like to hear something definite on this matter from
the staff at GWMicro.
Larry
PS Sorry about the sloppiness of this message. As I said, typing
messages has become one big chore. Every time I press the space
bar, or back space, I have to refresh/redraw.
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