Hi, I used to use eudora in exactly the way you describe. I had three
and sometimes four accounts checking mail for various purposes and
filtering it to innumerable folders, well actually more like 10 or 15,
4 or 5 of which could be open at any given time, allong with messages
containing addresses and phones for people I planned to call and/or
visit that day, lists of bootlegs and addresses for my live music
trading hobbie, and messages to be responded to on this or that user
group.
I never had any problems typing a message, reading a message, or
finding anything. I would ocasionally forget or not realize that
eudora was popping windows under the one I was working on, and I'd
delete something I didn't mean to, but I had no trouble multi-tasking.
One thing I did different though was I insisted on not using
microsoft's viewer. That thing did slow my systems, even my duel
cores, and it filled my screen with headers, and... I just didn't like
it. So I never ever used it, except on rare ocasions when I would
turn it on to get information out of a badly coded news letter or
something. If you are using the ms viewer, you might try turning it
off.
Now having said all this, I must say the time has come to think about
switching. To what exactly? I'm not sure. I dumped windows
altogether and I'm typing this on a mac using apple mail. Eudora was
wonderful and served my purposes for many years, but I think it is
time to move to something that is still in development, for security
purposes if for no other reason. I mean, who cares if your mail
reader has the ability to pick up rss feeds, not I, but I do care if
my computer falls a foul of some exploit because my mail program is
volnerable.
Best,
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On 2-Jul-08, at 1:12 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Window-Eyes has problems handling a large number of a combination
read-only controls and edit boxes open at once, and one of the nice
things about Eudora which many blind people don't take advantage of
is that, if you've filters which place messages in mailboxes for
you, and the auto-open feature is checked in options, when new mail
comes in, it is put directly to the left of where you're currently
reading. If you have Eudora auto-close mailboxes with messages
checked under tools and options, then when you're done reading a
particular mailbox of messages sorted by topic, messages from
lists, which I do, for example, the next newest topic of messages
auto-opens and you're placed, if not on top, then in the place you
last left off. If, in Eudora, you attempt to edit a filter setting,
write a reply message, or create a message, with all this going on,
Window-Eyes hiccups, gets inordinately slow, and just is more of a
pain to use. Jaws has no such problems either focusing on what
you're writing, or even telling you which mailbox has focus by name
since when you press control-tab or control-shift-tab, the windows
change and you're focused on a new mailbox and jaws speaks it's
name. Not Window-Eyes, or, can Window-Eyes maintain focus on a
particular message when new mail is processed, even with all
background tasks unchecked to display. Window-eyes works fine with
one mailbox open, one message at a time, no problems, but hey, I am
a multi-tasker and power user, taking advantage of this mailers
capabilities to handle all my mail, so I've probed the weakness of
Window-Eyes and this program, and have often written about it, and
can aptly demonstrate to all and sundry, but apparently no one else
uses Eudora like I do, so when you have many messages open as you do
and run into a similar problem from another perspective and point it
out I empathize, but doubt whether GW-Micro will take any interest
since their interest is in Thunderbird, which has it's own issues,
plug-ins, and yet, does not nearly have the usability as Eudora or
PM-Mail, or Courier or Calypso, superior email clients, all, except
that they don't handle new aspects of mail servers, or in the case
of PM-mail, html well, which are coming into vogue, so they are,
for all intents and purposes, ignored. Window-Eyes barely supports
windows live mail, and that one deserves more attention than
Thunderbird because of it's ability to handle the hot-mail accounts
which I hear will not be handled much more than beyond the end of
the year by Outlook Express, so it is a bit of a quandary for GW-
Micro, which to turn their support onto. Eudora is no longer a
concern for Qualcomm, and Eudora 8, you may as well be running
Thunderbird.
Curtis Delzer
At 09:20 PM 7/1/2008, John G wrote:
I have been using Eudora for nearly 10 years with Window-eyes and
none of the problems you've stated sound familiar. I am typing this
message in a Eudora message edit box without needing to redraw or
do anything to keep the text visible.
I don't wish to intrude but why would you want to open a large
number of messages at the same time? I may have got this wrong.
Perhaps you could explain in more detail what it is you want to
achieve.
For me Window-eyes 7 has made using Eudora an even faster and more
comfortable experience. It is a shame you're having these problems
but I have my doubts about the notion that window-eyes 7 is the
sole cause of them all.
take care
John
At 03:00 02/07/2008, you wrote:
I'm just wondering if the situation with Eudora is so dire that I
am really just going to have to throw in the towel, or is there a
chance that it's chances with the next beta are good, and that
might be redeemable.
I have previously spoken about problems opening a large number of
messages for reading, and how it causes a form of congestion (the
only way I know to describe it) that causes one to have to close a
number of messages before WE7 Beta even starts to speak again. Now
I have to report that I have to redraw the screen time and time
again while typing in the message editor, making it a real chore
to use the program at all.
I mean, if it is really necessary for me to use another mail
client in order to meet the future head on with Window-Eyes, then
I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and move to Thunderbird or
something, but I really don't want too. Eudora does all I need for
a mail client to do, and if it wasn't for this situation, I would
just stay right where I'm at, to be colloquial <g>.
Anyway, would like to hear something definite on this matter from
the staff at GWMicro.
Larry
PS Sorry about the sloppiness of this message. As I said, typing
messages has become one big chore. Every time I press the space
bar, or back space, I have to refresh/redraw.
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