Sorry this would not be easier. Because you have to have a global settings
menu.  
Then to find out if the option  was on you would then have to  look at both
of the options in said submenu.  This way you arrow to it get  the state of
the option and if you want to change it press enter choose the option you
want and press enter again. Sorry don't get what is so hard here.  
Now these options like so many others in the window-eyes menu system should
be radio buttons but that is another story. 


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Subject: RE: how to know when a setting will be changed globally or per set
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Hi,
Why don't they just have a pair of menu items that can either be checked or
unchecked rather than the confusion on that menu? Wouldn't that be simpler?
If both are checked, both are active. If one is checked, it's active and
the other isn't.

Thanks.

Jim

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Ok, let's think of it this way:
When in the global menu, Window-eyes wants to know
Which settings are global?
Voice and verbosity means that both voice settings and verbosity
settings are global.
Voice only means that only the voice settings will be global.
Verbosity means that only verbosity will be global.
None means that neither voice nor verbosity will be global.

Whatever is not global can be changed in individual set files.
Hope this helps.
Jeff Weiss

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Subject: RE: how to know when a setting will be changed globally or per
set file.

Hi,
OK, let me see if I have this down.

WE has two kinds of settings that the global menu can turn on and off.
They
are voice and verbosity. We assumes that you want to change those
settings
in all set files unless you change something that has to do with those
two
options on the global menu. If you set it to voice only, and you change
verbosity settings, you will be changing verbosity settings for the
currently active set file. If you set it to voice only, you will be
changing the voice settings for the currently active set file.

Is that anywhere close?

Thanks.

Jim

James D Homme, Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 412-544-1810

"The difference between those who get what they wish for and those who
don't is action. Therefore, every action you take is a complete
success,regardless of the results." -- Jerrold Mundis
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http://highwire.highmark.com/sites/iwov/hwt093/




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Look in the global menu in the WE control panel.  The default is voice
and
verbosity.
This makes both the voice setting and verbosity settings global.
Now if you want to change this for a particular application, with that
set
file loaded, you can change this to something else for that particular
set
file.
Then you could change some of these settings.
Lets say, you change the Internet explorer set file to voice only.
Now your set file for IE would still use your global voice settings, but
you could change verbosity settings which would only apply to that set
file.
Hope this helps,
Jeff Weiss


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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:45 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: how to know when a setting will be changed globally or per set
file.

Good Morning,

I have been using Window-Eyes almost exclusively for 20months now, and I
really like the program. However, when it comes to actually using the
application itself, I still find that I obviously just don't get it and
that frustrates me.
For example, with Firefox3 open, I pressed Insert-V and set Browse Mode
to
Do Not Auto-read. After making the change, I pressed Control-Backslash
and
saved the Set File. I thought this would make the change in Firefox
alone.
However I was wrong. Now Browse Mode behaves in this fashion any time it
is
active.
Therefore, the question is how does one know what settings are global
and
what settings are specific to each set file, thus requiring the Set File
to
be saved?
It has been 20 months with multiple reads of the Window-Eyes Manual, and
the Window-Eyes program still confounds me on what I feel is a basic
level.
Within weeks, I knew what it took to make a setting global or specific
to a
particular configuration file using JAWS.

Suzy, The Blind Avenger
Doing my best to prove blind people can.




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