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________________________________ From: net bat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:00 PM To: Jeff Weiss Subject: Re: how to know when a setting will be changed globally or per set file. except the mouse pointer descriptions, grin i found this bug over a year ago and i can not make gw understand this bug i found. this only happens when you use voice only. you do not have to save the set files to do this. try notepad. its the easiest for this test. set the global to voice only. now try to change the mouse voice to voice with descriptions delayed. move the mouse in and outside of the edit box. there two pointers arrow and i beam. this doesn't make any difference if descriptions were original on or off. what ever status the descriptions were when you load notepad they will stay the same. the only way you can change the mouse descriptions is to turn off the global menu. then change the descriptions status to voice with descriptions delayed. now turn global back to voice only. the descriptions will be spoken even if you go into the mouse menu and turn the descriptions off. the descriptions will still be spoken. w e is not useing the global set file for mouse descriptions when you use voice only. it is useing the actual notepad set file. these settings save fine to the global set file when useing voice and verbocity. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Weiss <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 10:57 AM Subject: RE: how to know when a setting will be changed globally or per set file. Ok, let's think of it this way: When in the global menu, Window-eyes wants to know Which settings are global? Voice and verbosity means that both voice settings and verbosity settings are global. Voice only means that only the voice settings will be global. Verbosity means that only verbosity will be global. None means that neither voice nor verbosity will be global. Whatever is not global can be changed in individual set files. Hope this helps. Jeff Weiss -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 12:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: how to know when a setting will be changed globally or per set file. Hi, OK, let me see if I have this down. WE has two kinds of settings that the global menu can turn on and off. They are voice and verbosity. We assumes that you want to change those settings in all set files unless you change something that has to do with those two options on the global menu. If you set it to voice only, and you change verbosity settings, you will be changing verbosity settings for the currently active set file. If you set it to voice only, you will be changing the voice settings for the currently active set file. Is that anywhere close? Thanks. Jim James D Homme, Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., [EMAIL PROTECTED], 412-544-1810 "The difference between those who get what they wish for and those who don't is action. Therefore, every action you take is a complete success,regardless of the results." -- Jerrold Mundis Highmark internal only: For usability and accessibility: http://highwire.highmark.com/sites/iwov/hwt093/ "Jeff Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > To [email protected] 08/21/2008 10:18 cc AM Subject RE: how to know when a setting will be changed globally or per set file. Look in the global menu in the WE control panel. The default is voice and verbosity. This makes both the voice setting and verbosity settings global. Now if you want to change this for a particular application, with that set file loaded, you can change this to something else for that particular set file. Then you could change some of these settings. Lets say, you change the Internet explorer set file to voice only. Now your set file for IE would still use your global voice settings, but you could change verbosity settings which would only apply to that set file. Hope this helps, Jeff Weiss From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: how to know when a setting will be changed globally or per set file. Good Morning, I have been using Window-Eyes almost exclusively for 20months now, and I really like the program. However, when it comes to actually using the application itself, I still find that I obviously just don't get it and that frustrates me. For example, with Firefox3 open, I pressed Insert-V and set Browse Mode to Do Not Auto-read. After making the change, I pressed Control-Backslash and saved the Set File. I thought this would make the change in Firefox alone. However I was wrong. Now Browse Mode behaves in this fashion any time it is active. Therefore, the question is how does one know what settings are global and what settings are specific to each set file, thus requiring the Set File to be saved? It has been 20 months with multiple reads of the Window-Eyes Manual, and the Window-Eyes program still confounds me on what I feel is a basic level. Within weeks, I knew what it took to make a setting global or specific to a particular configuration file using JAWS. Suzy, The Blind Avenger Doing my best to prove blind people can. If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. 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