Yes Microsoft word can be rock solid tell you load the document that creates a problem. Internet explorer same. I could go on window-eyes itself is rock solid but when you load another piece of code from a 3rd party you may find that they brake something. Like ok winamp itself is pretty stable but there are plug-ins that can make it crash and burn. A script is like that a plug-in. some time if you want to use an add on you have to test it to make sure it works. Are you beta testing window-eyes? No you are testing the add on. That is why the add ons are provided as is and not indorsed buy gw micro. Now I see why gw micro only included a few scripts to avoid this problem. So I retract my beliefs that they should have included more.
-----Original Message----- From: Larry Naessens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 2:04 PM To: Stephen Clower Cc: GW Micro Subject: Re: Scripts, a Mixed blessing? Steve, I don't think anyone is attempting to criticize you or to call into question anyone's dedication when it comes to the work that you put into scripts. I think that part of the dilemma may be that there are some people here who simply don't know where the problem lives. Too often for my liking the answer seems to be to request that the purchaser of the program put in more of their own time in order to diagnose the problem and sometimes that just isn't practical. I've always believed that was what beta cycles were about. And, speaking just for me, I can't conduct business using a screen reader that might turn renegade on me because I've chosen to load a given script. To me, and speaking strictly for me, that turns Window-Eyes into a beta. Rock solid unless you happen to load the wrong script. Does that really reflect a rock solid philosophy? So, do I have any suggestions? Sure I do. They may be far from perfect, but they might be worthy of a look. How about this one? Would it be possible for scripts to be tested by a group of willing and interested volunteers before they are released for general consumption? Certainly Window-Eyes itself goes through that process as does most software. So, why not scripts? I guess this would be an unpopular choice for those who want to latch onto the latest and greatest yesterday if not sooner, but what I need is a screen reader that can be depended upon to be ready to perform on a daily basis with a minimum of issues. The $300 charge for an SMA entitles me to that quality level and nothing less. Right now, I, personally, speaking strictly for me, see too many scripts that cause issues in all of my machines. Not just the odd rebel PC. That, Steve, is why I am likely to load fewer rather than more scripts onto any of my systems. I simply believe that there must be a minimum standard and that it must be observed universally before any script can be released to the public. If that means fewer but more reliable scripts, I'm ok with that. And please don't tell me that the current system works for everyone else. I've seen too many concerns expressed here to buy into that theory. Why not fine tune the acceptance of scripts prior to public release, so that more of us can join in on the applause for this version of Window-eyes? Larry Larry Naessens Vinyl Trans4mations A Division of Jalana Enterprises Bradford, Ontario Phone: 905 918 0658 Vinyl Trans4mations, a Burn Above the Rest At Vinyl Trans4mations, we turn old records and tapes into brand new CDs that you can listen to for a lifetime. Visit us at www.vinylguycafe.com. We welcome all of your enquiries by phone or email. Before sending us your media, please contact us for important shipping instructions. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Clower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "gw-info-gwmicro.com" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Scripts, a Mixed blessing? > Stephen Clark wrote: >> Same here. I just uninstall all the scripts and everythings fine. With >> scripts running I find that WE is extremely unstable which is very >> unfortunate. You're not the only one. IMHO, scripts are a joke and add >> nothing but instability to an otherwise stable product. > > > > It is unfortunate you believe this to be true. Admittedly, the scripting > engine, if not used correctly, can cause Window-Eyes to act strangely or > crash altogether. However, I and other script developers do what we can to > address all reported issues to ensure our addons work as seemlessly as > possible. If we knew which scripts you had tried to run along with their > version numbers, it would be easier for all interested parties to get to > the bottom of your instability problem. > > > I have found a few scripts that can cause problems, and I removed them > from now. However, I have 24 loaded into memory that don't slow > Window-Eyes down one bit. This includes the latest copies of the GW Micro > factory scripts and other utilities I've found to be useful. > > Bottom line: the more info you provide, the easier it will be to solve the > problem. > > Best regards, > Steve > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > sender only. 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