Jim, I so agree with you about a really good tutorial on how to script, using VB script, in Window Eyes.
Someone like Jamal, with his knowledge, could do it, and include lots of examples along the way, which would take the student through learning to program, learning VB script, and learning all the Window Eyes scripting features (including the GW toolkit and the Homer shared object). If anyone is listening, I bet Access Technology Institute would be glad to handle the marketing of such a text, but of course, it could be done with Paypal right from a web site. I just bought such an e-book for vista windows speech recognition, and paid in the neighborhood of $15 for it, and thought it was a good deal. That's not too much of an investment. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission [email protected] (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Grimsby Jr. [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:51 PM > To: 'Sandra Fouts' > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: RE: Scripts I would Pay For > > A script I would be willing to pay for at this point is a > script to help > script. I would really love to see this as part of > window-eyes but if the > only way to get it is to pay for it I am willing at this point. quite > frankly I am coming from the jaws scripting interface where > really what you > need to do a lot of is figure out what you want done and then > dig through > the insert script and insert function dialog to find the > option that does > what you want and then follow the prompts. I have been > begging and pleading > for such an interface ever scence we new window-eyes > scripting was going to > be a reality. Another thing I would pay for but I hope would > be free is a > tutorial that teaches vb script from the scripting perspective of > window-eyes. I don't care about web design I don't care > about doing system > admin work. I want to script window-eyes and that is really > all I need > scripting for. I find myself just doing a lot of scripting with jaws > because quite frankly I can get the job done faster. Verses > having to type > a lot of stuff buy hand. Not to speak of cutting down on > spelling errors. > Oh well I am sure a lot of people are sick of me being on > this band wagon. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandra Fouts [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:24 AM > To: 'Sam bushman'; [email protected]; Pat Ferguson > Subject: RE: Scripts I would Pay For > > Well I guess we're paid by taxpayers. But, people don't pay > our office > individually. I've had people ask how much it cost to file a > complaint. I > let them know that it doesn't cost anything. Just their time. > > > Sandra Fouts > Phone Counselor > Arkansas Attorney General's Office > 323 Center Street, Ste 200 > Little Rock, AR > 501-371-2303 > Fax 501-682-8118 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam bushman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:05 PM > To: Sandra Fouts; [email protected]; Pat Ferguson > Subject: Re: Scripts I would Pay For > > I am willing to pay for set files as well. > Remember guys that if people do every thing for free it's > hard to make any > money. > If you can't make money how does one support them selves? > Maybe all phone councelors should help people for free? > It's called free enterprise! > I am greatful for free software but, I sure don't think it's a right. > I will give you a great example: > If Jay wants to charge for the java scripts ... then if I > need them I will > pay him. > Why should we expect Jay to program for free? > Now if he wants to make them free I will be greatful! That > looks like what > he is doing. > But, remember we can either pay gw to add these features or > pay some one > else. > Since Jay is giving us access to java and gw is free to work > on other things > even if I need to pay Jay it's still great for me. > Last thought, if some one creates some scripts that helps me > gain employment > ... should I pay? > Sam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]> > To: "'Sam bushman'" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; "Pat > Ferguson" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:50 AM > Subject: RE: Scripts I would Pay For > > > I don't think so! Next thing you know, some one will come > up with paying > for set files! Then we'll being buying software with very > little access > which we would pay extra for! Something to think about > before saying you > would pay for scripts. > > > Sandra Fouts > Phone Counselor > Arkansas Attorney General's Office > 323 Center Street, Ste 200 > Little Rock, AR > 501-371-2303 > Fax 501-682-8118 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam bushman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:39 AM > To: [email protected]; Pat Ferguson > Subject: Re: Scripts I would Pay For > > I am willing to pay for scripts. > I look at scripts just like any other software and am willing > to pay for > software that is of use for me. > but, I am also greatful when people give scripts away ... > just like some > software is now. > I would be interested in a list of programmers and costs per > hour or project > ... just incase I need something written just for my needs. > I may even pay to have a script written for me and then give it away. > Sam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Ferguson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: Scripts I would Pay For > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I would hope that we should never have to pay for scripts. > > > > If I can ever learn how to write scripts, I would give them > away freely. > > > > Many people such as myself, can't afford to pay for scripts. > > > > Just my thoughts. > > > > Pat Ferguson > > At 03:56 PM 1/4/2009, you wrote: > >>I finally, sort of, made the switch to WE 7.01. I > immediately started > >>thinking about ways to make my work faster, more efficient, and more > >>productive by using scripts. > >>I had actually become rather good with JAWS scripts. After plowing > >>through a tutorial on Visual Basic and the Window-Eyes Help > system on > >>scripts, I'm beginning to doubt whether scripting will make me more > >>productive -- at least if I have to write the scripts myself. > >>I went to Script Central and found some nice scripts. I particularly > >>like the "Append to Clipboard" script. There were lots of cute > >>scripts, but not all that many productivity-enhancing scripts. Of > >>course, this could all be a function of the way I work, but II'm > >>guessing there are others out there who wuld rather do > their jobs than > >>learn VB Script and wuld even pay for > productivity-enhancing scripts. > >>Here are a few examples: > >>Jump to Element in Word: > >>WE already provides a nice facility for jumping to the next revision > >>(in track changes), the next bookmark, the next comment, and so-on. > >>Why not a function to jump to the next heading or the next table? > >>Word itself offers this functiion, sort of, in the "Go To" menu, but > >>it is decidedly awkward. I shouldn't think a script would be that > >>hard to write. > >> > >>Style Picker: > >>Most of us who learned word processing with WordPerfect (or earlier > >>programs) still rely on direct formatting, even though every Word > >>trainer decries this practice, encouraging us to use styles. There > >>are some handy styles built into Word, and I have created Word > >>templates with many, many fore. The Word short-cut key is > >>control-shift-S. That, of course, conflicts with the "read status" > >>command in Window-Eyes. Even when using the bypass key and > following > >>it with the control-shift-S command, what one gets is not a list box > >>of styles in alphabetical order that one can scroll down or jump to > >>with a key. Instead, one has to press Alt-O (for format) go to > >>"styles." Even then, the listing is decidedly uncooperative, not > >>readily responding to letter jump commands. Then, when one has > >>applied the style, the nasty task pain remains on the screen. That > >>can drive you nuts until you realize what's going on and > close it. I > >>would pay for a style picker script that let me press a key, scroll > >>down a list of scripts or jump to the "lists" with the > letter "l", and > >>allowed me, by pressing ENTER, to apply the script, close the dialog > >>box, and get rid of the task pain. > >> > >>"Or" searching in Word > >>OK, I may be getting more ambitious here, but I'll bet I've had 100 > >>instances in the last 30 days where I would have loved to have found > >>the next occurrence of one word or another, e.g., "compensation" or > >>"remuneration," to give you the last instance or, even more complex, > >>either a DeltaView "insert" style or a DeltaView "delete" > style. Yes, > >>one can search for formatting, styles, and even special characters > >>(like charrage return) in Word. Word, however, insists on searching > >>for one item at a time. That seems primitive, and perhaps > my gripe is > >>with Microsoft, but I would pay serious bucks for a script > that would > >>search for alternate terms in Word. > >>Macro Stuff > >>I find that 90% of the script functionality (beyond those mentioned > >>above) are really almost macro-like. Yet, simply > simulating a tab key > >>press, an up arrow, a carrage return, and the like, within a script, > >>seem to be mysteries. I couldn't find them at all in the > Window-Eyes > >>object model, and I'm 50 pages into this VB tutorial and > still haven't > >>found what I should think would be the most useful things > one could do > >>with a script. > >>I have a somewhat proprietary applicatiion where information is > >>displayed in a phantom list view and reclassing doesn't help. A > >>script which, for example, let me press Alt-down arrow as a > hotkey (I > >>can do that part of the script) and have it press the down > arrow key, > >>route the mouce to the cursor, turn speech off, jump 2 clips to the > >>right, turn speech back on, and then read the next clip should be an > >>easy script. It would be immeasurably valuable, but, well, it is > >>presently beyond me. > >>So, maybe I'll just go back to being a lawyer. > >> > >> > >>If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > >>sender only. 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