A script I would be willing to pay for at this point is a script to help
script. I would really love to see this as part of window-eyes but if
the
only way to get it is to pay for it I am willing at this point. quite
frankly I am coming from the jaws scripting interface where really what
you
need to do a lot of is figure out what you want done and then dig through
the insert script and insert function dialog to find the option that does
what you want and then follow the prompts. I have been begging and
pleading
for such an interface ever scence we new window-eyes scripting was going
to
be a reality. Another thing I would pay for but I hope would be free is a
tutorial that teaches vb script from the scripting perspective of
window-eyes. I don't care about web design I don't care about doing
system
admin work. I want to script window-eyes and that is really all I need
scripting for. I find myself just doing a lot of scripting with jaws
because quite frankly I can get the job done faster. Verses having to
type
a lot of stuff buy hand. Not to speak of cutting down on spelling errors.
Oh well I am sure a lot of people are sick of me being on this band wagon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Fouts [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:24 AM
To: 'Sam bushman'; [email protected]; Pat Ferguson
Subject: RE: Scripts I would Pay For
Well I guess we're paid by taxpayers. But, people don't pay our office
individually. I've had people ask how much it cost to file a complaint.
I
let them know that it doesn't cost anything. Just their time.
Sandra Fouts
Phone Counselor
Arkansas Attorney General's Office
323 Center Street, Ste 200
Little Rock, AR
501-371-2303
Fax 501-682-8118
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam bushman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:05 PM
To: Sandra Fouts; [email protected]; Pat Ferguson
Subject: Re: Scripts I would Pay For
I am willing to pay for set files as well.
Remember guys that if people do every thing for free it's hard to make any
money.
If you can't make money how does one support them selves?
Maybe all phone councelors should help people for free?
It's called free enterprise!
I am greatful for free software but, I sure don't think it's a right.
I will give you a great example:
If Jay wants to charge for the java scripts ... then if I need them I will
pay him.
Why should we expect Jay to program for free?
Now if he wants to make them free I will be greatful! That looks like
what
he is doing.
But, remember we can either pay gw to add these features or pay some one
else.
Since Jay is giving us access to java and gw is free to work on other
things
even if I need to pay Jay it's still great for me.
Last thought, if some one creates some scripts that helps me gain
employment
... should I pay?
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]>
To: "'Sam bushman'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>;
"Pat
Ferguson" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Scripts I would Pay For
I don't think so! Next thing you know, some one will come up with paying
for set files! Then we'll being buying software with very little access
which we would pay extra for! Something to think about before saying you
would pay for scripts.
Sandra Fouts
Phone Counselor
Arkansas Attorney General's Office
323 Center Street, Ste 200
Little Rock, AR
501-371-2303
Fax 501-682-8118
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam bushman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:39 AM
To: [email protected]; Pat Ferguson
Subject: Re: Scripts I would Pay For
I am willing to pay for scripts.
I look at scripts just like any other software and am willing to pay for
software that is of use for me.
but, I am also greatful when people give scripts away ... just like some
software is now.
I would be interested in a list of programmers and costs per hour or
project
... just incase I need something written just for my needs.
I may even pay to have a script written for me and then give it away.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Ferguson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Scripts I would Pay For
Hi Everyone,
I would hope that we should never have to pay for scripts.
If I can ever learn how to write scripts, I would give them away freely.
Many people such as myself, can't afford to pay for scripts.
Just my thoughts.
Pat Ferguson
At 03:56 PM 1/4/2009, you wrote:
I finally, sort of, made the switch to WE 7.01. I immediately started
thinking about ways to make my work faster, more efficient, and more
productive by using scripts.
I had actually become rather good with JAWS scripts. After plowing
through a tutorial on Visual Basic and the Window-Eyes Help system on
scripts, I'm beginning to doubt whether scripting will make me more
productive -- at least if I have to write the scripts myself.
I went to Script Central and found some nice scripts. I particularly
like the "Append to Clipboard" script. There were lots of cute
scripts, but not all that many productivity-enhancing scripts. Of
course, this could all be a function of the way I work, but II'm
guessing there are others out there who wuld rather do their jobs than
learn VB Script and wuld even pay for productivity-enhancing scripts.
Here are a few examples:
Jump to Element in Word:
WE already provides a nice facility for jumping to the next revision
(in track changes), the next bookmark, the next comment, and so-on.
Why not a function to jump to the next heading or the next table?
Word itself offers this functiion, sort of, in the "Go To" menu, but
it is decidedly awkward. I shouldn't think a script would be that
hard to write.
Style Picker:
Most of us who learned word processing with WordPerfect (or earlier
programs) still rely on direct formatting, even though every Word
trainer decries this practice, encouraging us to use styles. There
are some handy styles built into Word, and I have created Word
templates with many, many fore. The Word short-cut key is
control-shift-S. That, of course, conflicts with the "read status"
command in Window-Eyes. Even when using the bypass key and following
it with the control-shift-S command, what one gets is not a list box
of styles in alphabetical order that one can scroll down or jump to
with a key. Instead, one has to press Alt-O (for format) go to
"styles." Even then, the listing is decidedly uncooperative, not
readily responding to letter jump commands. Then, when one has
applied the style, the nasty task pain remains on the screen. That
can drive you nuts until you realize what's going on and close it. I
would pay for a style picker script that let me press a key, scroll
down a list of scripts or jump to the "lists" with the letter "l", and
allowed me, by pressing ENTER, to apply the script, close the dialog
box, and get rid of the task pain.
"Or" searching in Word
OK, I may be getting more ambitious here, but I'll bet I've had 100
instances in the last 30 days where I would have loved to have found
the next occurrence of one word or another, e.g., "compensation" or
"remuneration," to give you the last instance or, even more complex,
either a DeltaView "insert" style or a DeltaView "delete" style. Yes,
one can search for formatting, styles, and even special characters
(like charrage return) in Word. Word, however, insists on searching
for one item at a time. That seems primitive, and perhaps my gripe is
with Microsoft, but I would pay serious bucks for a script that would
search for alternate terms in Word.
Macro Stuff
I find that 90% of the script functionality (beyond those mentioned
above) are really almost macro-like. Yet, simply simulating a tab key
press, an up arrow, a carrage return, and the like, within a script,
seem to be mysteries. I couldn't find them at all in the Window-Eyes
object model, and I'm 50 pages into this VB tutorial and still haven't
found what I should think would be the most useful things one could do
with a script.
I have a somewhat proprietary applicatiion where information is
displayed in a phantom list view and reclassing doesn't help. A
script which, for example, let me press Alt-down arrow as a hotkey (I
can do that part of the script) and have it press the down arrow key,
route the mouce to the cursor, turn speech off, jump 2 clips to the
right, turn speech back on, and then read the next clip should be an
easy script. It would be immeasurably valuable, but, well, it is
presently beyond me.
So, maybe I'll just go back to being a lawyer.
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