It doesn't sound any weirder to me than the extra buttons on braille displays. 
Fantastic idea!
Sara
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: erik burggraaf 
  To: David 
  Cc: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:16 PM
  Subject: Re: WE & Gamepad - just an idea


  Humm, well I know this is possible with voiceover on the mac.  Not quite what 
you were asking I know,  But for example, I saw a logitech jogame controller 
with a joystick, and 12 programmable buttons.  So, maybe we need a script to 
releace the window-eyes functions, or maybe we just need to set up a new 
keybord layout, call it game controller, and then program window-eyes to do the 
function we want when a button on the game controller is pressed.  The 
controllers aren't that expensive.  $20-$40 for really good ones.


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  On 10-Jan-09, at 1:38 PM, David wrote:


    Ok, this might be a bit of a strange idea; but les give it a try, and an 
example:

    Many of us, are using WE on a laptop. Then you well know, how the operating 
of WE is quite complicated. You really miss the mouse keys, usually found on 
the numeric keypad. But even with a full size PC keyboard, you sometimes want 
to operate the numeric keypad as such, and at the same time do certain mouse 
movements.

    Or, les give you this other example:
    When browsing EBay, you might well have found that the list of search 
results, are in a table. Les say, you are searching for a new pair of shoes. 
All the photos will be in column 1, the titles/headers in column 2, and the 
highest bid/buy-it-now price in column 3. OK, you press T to go to Table 1, 
then CTRL+ to turn on Table Mode, and now you have to navigate through the 
columns with INS + the Arrow Keys. I.e, you want to get your shoes less than 
$40, so you have to go to column 3, and then holding down INS and scroll your 
way down through the offers with Down-Arrow.
    Finally, you find a pair you want to read about, so you press Enter.
    If, now, you are using the wonderul Placemarker function, you could for 
instance have set one placemarker at the word DESCRIPTION, quickly jumped down 
to where the description of the shoes start, and easily have read the text 
using the X key. Allright, all of this is basics, and most of us have already 
made up a routine for this.

    My idea, though, is:
    Could it be possible - with the use of a set-file, or a script - to have a 
gamepad programmed for the most used functions, in a given software. I just 
looked at one model on the net, and it has a joystick, and TEN keys. Now, if 
the joystick could have been programmed to do the navigation between the 
columns, and you had the ten keys programmed to go to Table, Text, Link, 
Control, Placemarker - all of them forward/backward respectively. Then you 
could have done most of your browsing, with the operation of one hand.

    In other cases/software, the joystick could have been used as the mouse 
keys, while as the ten extra keys, could have been used to simulate the 
left/right click, ¨ "move mouse to cursor" function, and so forth. OK, this 
would mean an extra gadget to your PC; and many 8users might not want that. 
Then go ahead, use the system as ever before. But for those who would find it 
useful...

    My real question is: ISTHIS POSSIBLE, technically? Anyone tried something 
like this? I know, that you should be able to script certian actions of the 
joystick, but is it possible to make the joystick sending a character/keystroke 
to the computer, i.e sending an X or T, when a button on the joystick/gamepad 
is pressed?

    Hope for some feedback from all you tech guys. But also, let us know, if 
there is more users that would find this handy. Even - maybe - let¨s spin a bit 
on it, to see if the idea could be modified; so as to meet the wishes better.

    What I imagine, is that we got an interface, where the user could define 
the actions of the keys on the gamepad, and then save this in kind of a 
set-file, for each software/window, much like we have with the standard 
keyboard outlay already.

    OK, guys, I am eager to hear your inputs/feedback.
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