Sorry, but I'd have thought I'd spelt it out clearly enough but, in a nut shell, no ability within Quictime to move about in a stream, adjust volume, etc.
You can only start and stop the stream with space bar. I don't call that accessible. What I want is all the functionality available to a mouse user made available by keyboard support. Hope that's clear enough. Ray. Alan R. Downing wrote: What ever it is that is claimed to be inaccessible. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[email protected]> To: "Alan R. Downing" <[email protected]> Cc: "GW - info" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: Re: Inaccessability of Quicktime: who's fault? What can be done? > Um, sory, what is that? What is what? > > Ray. > > Alan R. Downing wrote: > What is that? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" <[email protected]> > To: "Nathan Normal" <[email protected]> > Cc: "gw-info" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:35 AM > Subject: Re: Inaccessability of Quicktime: who's fault? What can be done? > > >> Share a lot of your frustration Natham with things Apple. I will stress >> again though that I am by no means 'anti-Apple', and I'm not out to start >> an >> argument about the merits or otherwise of Apple computers and the >> operating >> system, which in many ways is in fact superior to Windows. >> >> This said, the blitheness and can we say, 'blindness' to vi needs is so >> often downrightly offensive on the part of so many Apple supporters. No >> more so than in the case of Quicktime and its use on sites meant to be >> used >> by vi people, for heavens sake! >> >> Quictime Alternative has been mentioned as the way forward, but so far we >> have silence on both exactly what keyboard support is in this app and how >> well it works with Firefox. A fair amount of Googling has revealed >> nothing >> at all in respect of how vi people get along with Quicktime Alternative. >> >> I'd still like to know to about the possibility of a script to for us to >> get >> accessability. That said, I've no doubt the real responsibility lies >> with >> Apple in in this. They've made ITunes accessible, and their Voice Over, >> while not perfect, so why the complete blanking out of vi needs with >> Quicktime? The damned thing appears all over the place. >> >> So let's here from Apple and none-Apple users alike on this one please. >> >> Ray. >> has a good deal to commend it >> >> >> Nathan Normal wrote: >> Hey, Ray, in over 10 years, different operating systems, whatever, I have >> yet to ever get that quicktime player to work in what I'd even consider a >> remotely useable manner. >> Actually, for that very reason, I've uninstalled it on every single >> machine >> I found it on, including their worthless Itunes. >> Look, Ray, I want a computer, not a fruit. >> Wouldn't touch apple anything with a ten foot pole and their mac crak >> junk >> in its best days. >> When I went to buy my first reading system 17 years ago, Apple and its >> other >> garbage supported nothing in the field, a tech friend I knew very well at >> the time, had told me then, they were nothing but trouble, and, to my >> mind >> anyway, their abysmal software just proves the point all the way around. >> In my book, ya can keep apple, crapple, quick crap i crap,i tunes, their >> i >> pod yuppy player, their i phones, ya name it. >> Nate Normal, >> Montego Bay, Jamaica >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray" <[email protected]> >> To: "GW-INFO List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 2:36 PM >> Subject: Inaccessability of Quicktime: who's fault? What can be done? >> >> >> First apologies to those who will see a similar message from me on the >> PC-Audio list, but posting here with a Window-Eyes slant. >> >> I work with someone producing a talking newspaper and we are up against - >> what to me - is an arrogant attitude towards vi users that they must have >> Quicktime or nothing. >> >> To my knowledge QT has never been accessible in the sense of moving >> around >> in it or adjusting the volume of playback from the player, etc. Before I >> vent my anger unreservedly - and I do feel QT is a load of Pants - are >> there >> in fact scripts making it more usable? Is there accessability hidden >> away >> that I don'tknow about? >> >> The assertion on the part of the ignoramous who declines to accomodate >> our needs is that screen readers aught to work with it. Well, is that in >> fact possible? Or is it Entirely Apples fault? Would it, in theory, be >> possible for a Window-Eyes scripter to give us the same navigation etc as >> mouse users enjoy? >> >> Does anyone know if Apple users fair better using it with Voice Over? (I >> know there are Mac users here.) NO, I'm not by any means anti-Apple, but >> this - to me - abysmal software is an insult to VI users on a site >> designed >> surely with them as the main user group. >> >> I'd be interested to hear from anyone knowledgable on this and who knows >> more than I do. >> >> Ray. >> >> >> >> >> >> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >> sender only. 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