Larry and all,

Be careful what you wish for here because it could compromise accessibility.
I heard from a sighted friend that Yahoo is employing a CAPTCHA if you
forward or send to more than one persson.  I don't know exactly how many
people are needed in order to trigger this nasty little CAPTCHA but I do
know that it doesn't matter whether they are in the To field or the BCC
field.  Even this friend is aware that this will make for accessibility
problems for the blind as his wife his blind.  He has addressed this matter
with Yahoo and not gotten a response yet.

Befoe anyone says anything about an audio CAPTCHA for this, I did not get
the impression that this was even an option and audio doesn't work for
everyone.  I know some people who are db who are using Yahoo for their
E-mail.

Thanks.

Karyn Campbell, Illinois USA, [email protected]
Using WE 7.01 on Toshiba laptop running VISTA home premium SP 1 and Office
2007 with IE 7 as well as two1/2-year-old Dell Enspiron 1501 laptop running
XP home SP 3 with Office 2003 and IE 6  with AVG 8.5 free on both machines.
Check out my Blog at packerbackerkaryn.blogspot.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Thacker Jr. [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 11:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: GW Micro is a great cause of all the spam?

I think this is a legitimate concern.  I definitely noticed an increase in
spam after a little time and a few posts to the list.  Though MS Outlook's
spam filter is surprisingly effective, not all filters are created equal,
and some services which access email directly from the ISP either do not or
cannot practically employ robust filtering.  I find spam and the unethical
people behind it particularly distasteful and go to some length to keep my
addresses out of places where they may be picked up.  However, not everyone
runs their own domain or has the time to bother with multiple and
potentially disposable email addresses.  As much as I like reading the list
and looking for opportunities to contribute, I am probably eventually going
to get off of it in order to preserve this email address for a while longer.

Another consideration is for those folks who may use an email address from
their place of employment.  This is generally not a good idea and often
against company policy, but for some may be the best or preferred option.
Getting that address flooded with spam is not a good thing.

I understand the desire both to keep the list easily accessible and provide
the opportunity to reply personally to a message.  The latter I am sure
keeps the traffic manageable.  However, perhaps a minimum effort to keep
email addresses from proliferating across the internet is in order.  Maybe a
click-through option similar to what is now seen on Yahoo Group
distributions would provide at least another hoop for the spam bots to jump
through while keeping ease of use relatively intact.

Larry

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 7:51 AM
To: C. Richcreek Enterprises
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: GW Micro is a great cause of all the spam?

Craig,

Thanks for your comments. I should first point out that Bill hasn't been
employed with GW Micro for some time now. So you might want to update your
address book.

Second, the GW-Info email list is a public discussion forum. You can view
archives on our website at www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. Google is a service
designed to index public websites, and provide a search mechanism for
finding content.

I'm sure you can deduce that a service designed to index public web sites
indexing a collection of public discussions would indeed result in being
able to locate your email address.

It is true that we could take some measure to obfuscate email addresses in
these public forums. But there are other services which subscribe to our
email lists for the sole purpose of archiving the content publicly which
also make email addresses available for public viewing and consumption. For
that reason, I never took the time to implement any kind of obfuscation
technology. I also felt the ability to contact an author of a message
through the archive interface outweighed the possibility of having email
addresses harvested for ill gotten gain. I still feel that to be the case.

I hope that helps explain the rather benign debacle you've recently
encountered.

Aaron

On 7/16/2009 7:17 PM, C. Richcreek Enterprises wrote:
> Hi Bill, I have been an ardent user of WindowEyes only, since 
> VocalEyes but today I find out that your info support list is listing 
> my Email Address all over on Google. This is a serious dis-service to 
> all of the members that ask or answer lister's questions on the Info 
> list. I hope that you all can find a much better way to not be doing 
> that? All the tech at my ISP, had to do was just put my email address 
> into Google and your Info list came right up complete with my email 
> address? This is no security, at all, for your clients, I have been 
> very careful to always read the privacy documents to where ever I 
> create an account for shopping, Software purchases etc. and it seems 
> that it has been a definite waist of time. To find out that my 
> favorite company is freely listing my email address all over the web 
> is unconscionable. Have any of you even thought about this problem? I 
> should hope so. Thank you, Craig B. Richcreek

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