Chris,

You'll note that all of the products you mention are created by third parties, and not by Freedom themselves. You should lobby these third parties to look at, and develop with, Window-Eyes scripting. Once they realize there's a market of Window-Eyes users who are willing to pay for access, they may re-think their market. That's going to happen much quicker than waiting on us; we simply do not have the resources to develop solutions for all products. Instead, we create the tools that let users make the magic happen.

Aaron

On 7/21/2009 11:20 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
That's a real shame that no development is happening with sonar and
window-eyes.

The registry fix thing probably still works to give basic access and
then turning on the read box in hilite in the general menu gives access
to the event view and you can coble together access of a sort with
setfiles, but we haven't done anything significant since version 5.5.

This is a shame since with jaws, there are 2 very solid accessibility
packages which work beautifully with sonar and many third party plug-ins.
caketalking from dancing dots, and the jsonar project and jim the
snowman's hotspot clicker makes many third party plug-ins like dimension
pro dance and sing songs reliably.

I hope this doesn't offend anybody, I don't mean to sound complaining,
but I make my living with this stuff, and I like our little company.

I have students that use window-eyes and I have no choice but to make
them have to use jaws if they want to use the only daw software that's
really accessible that's of a real professional quality.

Anyway, let me be as possitive as I can.

I don't take anything away from the hard work that's already been done
with window-eyes.

I just want to raise my voice to represent the frustrated musicians who
might still be we users out there who haven't totally abandoned ship yet
who might be hoping for a showing from window-eyes for something for us
because I think we represent a few sales and the time might come when
I'll have to choose between one screen reader or another, and I don't
want to have to make that choice because there are many things I love
about window-eyes.

I want a basic tool for window-eyes like hotspot clicker where I can
make my own interface overlay for a plug-in that doesn't talk, and share
with other users, and with the superior scripting with window-eyes this
surely is possible.

I too would pay money for sonar development I don't have a 64 bit
version of jaws, but I do own a 64 bit version of window-eyes.

If I could do my next sonar upgrade with some tools in hand to access my
daw of choice with my first love and screen reader of choice, life would
be grand.

Ok, enough ranting, I've said my say, for what it's worth.

I've said it before, and before my sma's run out, I'll probably say it
again a couple more times, but the thing I want to say the most is thank
you gwmicro for giving me tools to do my job and make money.

Blessings and best regards.

Chris


At 08:20 AM 7/21/2009, you wrote:
Hi Chad,
i haven't heared of any sonar scripts for WE. However, the fact that
you can't read your synth's screen with the mouse keys may not
necessarily have to do with Window-Eyes. Software synthesizers use
their own graphic UI and those elements either can't be
identified by a screenreade or are just graphic clips.

With some older VST synths you could gain access by using a VST to DXI
bridge called directixer. This bridge can access the old
style interface of software synths. It gives you a list of parameters
and a track bar to change their values. The new softsynths
however offer such new and cool like effect pads or file browsers
things that the old interface is now useless and mostly not or
only partially supported.

But still you can switch the preset programs of your softsynth.

I hope this helps.

Best regards


Ralf Vosseler
Software development

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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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> Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juli 2009 13:00
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> Betreff: sonar 8 or fruity loops
>
> Hi do you know is sonar 8 is compatible with window eyes.
> The thing i'm having trouble with loading synths like dimension pro
etc.
> i use my mouse keys and nothing is red.
> Also anyone tried fruity loops if so is it accessible?
> Is there script writers for sonar i'll pay for it if i have to.
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