Well, grin, I'm once again trying to use Window-Eyes. I know
I've tried before, even earlier this year, but kind of got
sidetracked when I once again started to use JAWS when I thought
I needed it to use TaxAct to do my taxes.
I've now taken JAWS off my system; so, should I be tempted to put
it on again, and so far I haven't been, I would actually have to
go to the FS site and download the most current version again or
locate my latest JAWS c d. However, I did just purchase System
Access awhile back, and I have that on my system as well. So,
I'm trying to learn to use both of these at the same time, so to
speak.
It's kind of strange, though, for, at least for some of what I'm
trying to do, I seem to be having a bit more luck with System
Access. And, grin, since several of their keystrokes are the
same as those for JFW, I can't help but wonder why FS chose the
name instead of the similarity of operation for that goofy
lawsuit.
But, getting back to WE, and perhaps I've got something messed up
and need to re-install again, or perhaps I'm just not doing or
understanding things correctly. For, one of my problems when
using WE, is that I can't tell what I've written in a form while
browse mode is off and I'm trying to edit the form. Sure, I can
turn browse mode back on and then arrow up and down to read what
I've filled in or just tab away from the form and then tab back
with browse mode off, but that doesn't help a lot when one needs
to edit a word in the middle of a paragraph in the form.
Now, as I said, I may have very well got my copy of WE, meaning
the most current one, goofed up and need to re-install; or,
perhaps I am just not doing things the correct way. But, for
example, I was filling out a tech support form on the En-Vision
America site for sending back my id mate OMNI to be updated, and
I misspelled a word or two in what I was writing. But, when
backspacing to try and fix things, I only heard a ding from my
computer. Then, too, although I could turn browse mode back on
and read what I had written and stop at where I had made my
error, turning browse mode off again then always just put me at
the end of the form. And, although I could then use home and the
control arrow keys to move within the form, I still couldn't hear
just what I was editing in the form until I either tabbed away
and back or turned browse mode back on and took a look. So, I
just gave up and used SA to correct my mistakes.
On another issue, and I think this has already been discussed
regarding the BookShare page, but WE didn't seem to find all the
links there when it came time to search for and download a book,
thus I had to use System Access again.
And, another link issue happened on some of the Schwan's pages
when I was trying to enter on the links for and read both the
preparation instructions and ingredients for some of the foods.
For, WE would just seem to stop at the page loading message,
while exiting WE and turning on SA while still leaving the page
at that page loading prompt, SA would then read me that
preparation instructions or ingredients info, depending on which
I was trying to read at the time. Although, in checking those
sites further, WE would indeed read them if I either did an ALT
tab away and then came back, or if I unloaded SA and loaded WE
with those Schwan's pages still open.
Oops, in looking further, guess those preparation and ingredients
links are same page links. So, even though entering on them
doesn't work well with WE, guess a word search from the main
product info page for the appropriate words would get me to that
part of the page, anyway.
And, oh yes, when it came to checking out on the Amazon site, the
regular one and not the accessible one, I had to use SA as well,
as WE didn't seem to read that part of the page, either, when it
came to the place to confirm my payment information. Now, WE did
load that page on Amazon; but, part of the info there just seemed
to be missing. Also, from the time I added a product to my
shopping cart, I would get the message Internet Explorer cannot
display the webpage on most every page through the checkout
process with WE, but then I couldn't enter my payment info when
it got to that screen, as that text just wasn't available, thus I
again had to use SA to get the job done.
Oh, as one can probably tell that I'm kind of trying more things
as I write this message, since the ALT tabbing away and then back
worked on the Schwan's site, I tried it with the Amazon site,
too, but it didn't work as I still couldn't find the payment
info. However, when loading that payment page with SA, and then
keeping it there and then unloading SA and loading WE, I could
then read the payment options.
Oh, gee, whiz. For, still trying things here as I'm writing, I
think I finally got the Amazon site to read my payment info, and
without having to go to SA first. For, when I tried to pay my
rent online tonight and couldn't read the payment amount I had
entered after turning browse mode back on, I finally discovered
that I could read the info I had put there as long as I kept the
browse mode off. So, after I finished paying the rent, I went
back to the Amazon page, put an item in my shopping cart, got the
Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage message, proceeded
to the sign in and check out process, and got to the billing page
and couldn't read the billing options once again--well, at least
I couldn't until I turned browse mode off, at which time the info
did indeed magically appear.
I'm certainly not trying to bash WE, and I've likely missed some
of the browser discussions because of not paying that much
attention when I went back to using JFW more, and of course you
all know that I'm just not that experienced with WE even though
I've had it on my system for years. I did try and use the help
info and manual along the way, though. But, still, I wanted to
pass on some of my experiences with trying to use both WE and SA
and no JFW for the past couple of weeks, and see if folks might
have suggestions for me regarding using WE. I'm using Windows
Vista Home Premium and Internet Explorer 8 on a Toshiba laptop,
and only have the weather script installed, in addition to the
default scripts that come with WE, and I have already
re-installed WE 7.0 and then 7.1 once in the last week with the
same results.
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