Yep!
You can say that once more!
I've seen some pretty weird drivers after the bars close.
Best Regards,
Tyler Juranek

On 8/10/09, Kevin Simon Huber <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Joe:
> You would probably do better than some folks who are on the road now.
> Especially some of the ones that are on the road when the bars close.
> Kevin Huber
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Lanier" <[email protected]>
> To: "'Terri Pannett'" <[email protected]>; "'Michael Massey'"
> <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:57 PM
> Subject: RE: Blind Driving to Come Soon
>
>
>> Terri,
>>
>> I don't mean to drag this thread out, but, some things need to be pointed
>> out.
>>
>> 1. Like you said, it doesn't matter what organization funded this project.
>> In my estimation, it isn't your or my position to decide how funds are
>> spent
>> unless we were in charge of the organization.  Of cource, it is our right
>> to
>> say how dumb or smart an idea is.
>>
>> 2. At this point, a truly blind friendly car isn't possible due to a lot
>> of
>> factors.  These include the U.S. road infrastructure, technological
>> limitations, legal ramifications and so on.  So, your point about these
>> subjects are correct.  Now, lets look at the future.  People said we would
>> never fly and look what happened.
>>
>> 3. How states decide the meaning of a qualified driver is a matter of
>> public
>> law.  If there is a desire to have them changed, by all means, contact the
>> legislators and make a plea.
>>
>> 4. The mention of this project on this list doesn't bother me in the
>> least.
>> Like I said before, this project is probably mentioned all over the place.
>>
>> 5. Driving a car really isn't the point of having that ability.  The real
>> advantage is independance.  I would be so happy if I could say I want to
>> go
>> to the library, go jump into my convayance(car, buggy, space ship or
>> whatever) and zoom there.  This way, I don't have to walk a gozillion
>> miles,
>> set up a ride with special transit, ask friends/family for a ride or deal
>> with public transit schedules.
>>
>> These opinions are strictly my own.  If anyone wants to take exception
>> with
>> them, please contact me off list.  If anyone agrees with me, they can
>> contact me off list as well.
>>
>> I will keep dreaming.  Now, if I could get that device that will
>> completely
>> clean my house with the push of a button, I would be so glad.
>>
>> Warm Regards..  Joe Lanier
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Terri Pannett [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:47 PM
>> To: Michael Massey; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Blind Driving to Come Soon
>>
>> I would definitely say the project of making a dirt buggy driveable for a
>> blind person is dumb, no matter what organization was behind it.  Cars are
>> lethal weapons and one careless mistake, whether it's by a sighted driver
>> or
>> a blind person using one of these adapted buggies, could kill someone!
>> Like
>> I said before, there are too many sighted drivers who shouldn't be driving
>> and the DMV is one big joke because they aren't strict enough.
>>
>> The money spent on this project should have been spent on something which
>> really would have been of practical help to the blind.  One idea is to
>> make
>> funds available to help people buy the adaptive products they need for
>> independence and employment.  Just think!  If a product like the
>> BrailleSense + could be subsidized so the end user could pay, say, $500.00
>> instead of the $5,995.00 that would be helpful!
>>
>> Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Massey" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 4:53 AM
>> Subject: Blind Driving to Come Soon
>>
>>
>>> Boy, oh boy, I already am a blind driver, grin.  I drove myself crazy
>>> with
>>> this thread, ha ha ha he he he.
>>>
>>> No, I don't want to hear any jokes about us blind folks and their dog
>>> guides.  And if rocks are gonna be thrown then let them be nerf rocks,
>>> grin.
>>> Those who don't know what nerf is or was, please write each other off
>>> list.
>>>
>>>
>>> I've done some dumb things in my life, so I guess I support another dumb
>>> thing that NFB has done 'cause I'm in it man, hip, hip hooray!  Get me
>>> behind the wheel of one of them there doon buggies, grin.
>>>
>>> Hmmm, wonder if ACB would have come up with the project  Would have been
>>> termed as "dumb?"  Notice the quotes."
>>>
>>> Mike M.
>>>
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