Brian, I'm sending this to you and the list, so you can get answers from others as well.
I tried the laptop layout for a while, but it has some problems, and some key combinations that don't work properly, and getting help from others is always a problem, since they'll often give you specific key commands to use, and they of course won't work in the laptop layout. So, I took Rauls suggestion and went back to the standard keyboard layout, even on a laptop. You can do this because your laptop should have an extra key, in the bottom left of the keyboard, usually second from the left, which is called the "fn" key. when you hold it down, your laptops group of keys centered around the u i and o become a numeric pad. try this out in the key describer mode, and you'll eventually catch on to how they've mapped your particular alphabetic keys to numeric keypad keys. then, when you need a window eyes standard keyboard command such as control plus numeric pad center to read the current line, you make that by holding down the control key, and the fn key, and the letter i which is the numeric pad center key. this takes a lot of practice, and there are some key combinations when end up needing you to hold down four keys at once all over the keyboard, so it's not perfect. however, I did try the alternatives and found them even harder, so I think this is your best choice. a lot of people point out that you can easily connect a standard keyboard to your laptop; either with a usb cable or via bluetooth. if you aren't leaving your house or where-ever, then this may be your best option. some people even carry a standard keyboard with them when they go mobile and take their laptop somewhere. and there are folding standard keyboards which are designed for this kind of thing. so, one or the other of these options should work for you I hope. hth, Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission [email protected] (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryan Duarte [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:35 PM > To: Chip Orange > Subject: RE: problems with window eyes > > Thank you very much. I did this exact thing here and it > worked. Thank you > very much. Now the only other question is can I use the lap > top key board > lay out with window eyes? Right now it is set to default but > I am using it > on a lap top. Does any one have any input on using window > eyes with the lap > top key board lay out? thanks again for your help and > everyone else that has > helped. > > Bryan Blind Ambitions > www.sightunseen.biz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:58 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: problems with window eyes > > and here's the text of the article: > > Symptom: > Using Window-Eyes 5.0, or greater, when pressing the Speech > Parameters > hot keys > (CTRL-ALT-ARROW KEYS by default) Window-Eyes will not indicate the > current speech > parameter setting. > Cause: > An Intel video application running in the background uses > these keys to > modify various > video settings, such as screen rotation. > Solution: > You will need to disable the Intel hot keys, by performing the > following general > steps: > 1. Open the Windows control panels > 2. Open the Display control panel > 3. Select the Settings tab > 4. Select the Advanced button > 5. Select the Intel(R) Extreme Graphics option > 6. Select the Graphics Properties option > 7. Select the HotKeys option > 8. Uncheck Enable Hot Keys option > You may also be able to open the Graphic Properties options using > CTRL-ALT-F12. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Simon Huber [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:50 PM > > To: GW-info > > Subject: Re: problems with window eyes > > > > Hi Brian: > > The problem with those "alt-control arrow key" commands is that the > > alt-control-up and alt-control-down arrow commands rotate the > > screen by > > default. There is a method of disabling this feature and it > > is explained in > > an article in the GW Micro knowledge base. You can get to it > > by going to: > > www.gwmicro.com/support > > and then going to the "KnowledgeBase" link. If you type the > > words "settings > > rotor" in the search box, you should find that article. > > Kevin Huber > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Bryan Duarte > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:35 PM > > Subject: problems with window eyes > > > > > > Hello I posted a question a few days ago but I never heard > > back from > > anyone. I might have just done something wrong. Oh well. > Any ways my > > question is that I am new to window eyes I have been using > > JAWS for ever but > > now would like to use window eyes due to support for my sync > > Braille. I am > > having problems with the commands actually working. I have > > tried the jaws > > key board, default, and also the lap top version, none of > > these lay outs > > seem to work when I do the commands. I am using a lap top > > running windows XP > > and would like to know if there is something I am doing wrong > > or if it is > > just not set up right or what ever the problem could be. Some > > commands I > > have tried is the ctrl alt right arrow, left arrow, and > other speech > > adjustments. These are not working for me. If you can offer > > any help it > > would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Bryan Blind Ambitions > > > > www.sightunseen.biz > > > > > > > > > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original > > sender only. 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