Jim:
I certainly agree with you on this point -- as will anyone who has experimented with alternate voices only to find a glitch somewhere that results in silence. If it were possible for Window-Eyes to detect the error somehow and default to DecTalk that would truly be a nice safety net. Silence in the situation described above (and succinctly illustrated in your post) is not golden. It is frustrating. Because this has happened to me, I am very reluctant to experiment with other voices. I slightly prefer eloquence over DecTalk, but that's purely a matter of personal taste. I've installed the Eloquence "patch" just released by GW Micro, and quite frankly, I didn't notice any difference whatsoever. Perhaps I was one of the lucky ones who experienced few problems with Eloquence before.
All the best.

Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
Hi the feature would be there lets say ok you use sapi and you have
naturally speaking installed so you select jenafer.  Well because of a bad
design on the part of neuons  that jenafer is in the sapi list even though
it will not work outside of dragon.  So the user doesn't know this and says
oh wonder what she sounds like.  So they switch to her and bam no speech.
Now the user who really knows the way around the control panel can get back
in to the select sinthasizers dialog switch to something else with no speech
and no big deal.  The user who doesn't is left out in the cold with no
speech.  Switching to the window-eyes default device would at least give the
user the ability to get back in with speech and change it to some thing
else.  The reason I think it should be the dectalk is quite frankly the
dectalk always works it is the default sinthasizer for window-eyes and is
the most stable. It is not like this is going to be an issue everyday but it is something that should be done when it becomes a problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Hinton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:46 PM
To: Ralf Kefferpuetz
Cc: Marek Durila; Brandon Misch; [email protected]
Subject: Re: synthesizers

I don't really like this discussion.
Why sould GW Micro have to really go and do this anyways? It should be
obvious to the user whatever the synthesizer is that he/she is using.
If he/she switches, why should the screen reader kick back  in with  a
synthesizer that someone may not want in the first place?
What if the person in question is a hater of the DecTalk access32?
If that is a feature that is forced ont he user, then you will have
the customer yelling at GW Micro and Doug and Aaron to disable said
feature in the code.
If you ask me, this needs to be setup through a script as an otpional
feature, not one forced on the customer.
I for one, am totally aginst the all of you for wishing to have this
feature.
As for wanting to have such a feature in Window-Eyes, couldn't this be
scripted? This is a waist of GW Micro's development if you ask me.
Surely it is possible today, to take Window-Eyes and do this today.
If you want such a feature, code it yourself. That's my suggestion,
take it or leave it. There is no other choice in the matter.
This is my final opinion to this subject, and you will receive no more
replies from me on this particular thread.
Thanks.

Regards, ---Keith



On 1/23/10, Ralf Kefferpuetz <[email protected]> wrote:
I totally  disagree. Nothing is faster as the Eloquence coming with
Window-Eyes and Jaws.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Marek Durila [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:59 PM
To: Brandon Misch
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: synthesizers

Hi,
Yes this is a true and I think, that it's pity.
But if GW-Micro made a contract between them and RealSpeak, could be nice,
because it's really faster then Sappy.
With best regards,
   Marek Durila

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             Brandon Misch
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                                       [email protected]
             22/01/2010 16:48                                           cc

                                                                   Subject
                                       Re: synthesizers










i think realspeak direct is a jaws only thing. window-eyes at one time did
have realspeak voices but gw never mentioned why after version 4.5 they
were
never on a cd anymore.

On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Marek Durila wrote:

Hi,
Will be implemented Direct voices from Real Speak as Jaws 10 has this?
Because the echo is faster than SAPPY.
With best regards,
  Marek Durila

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Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSC 61600
IC: 26244535, Zapsaná v obchodním rejstríku, vedeném Krajským soudem v
Brne
oddíl C, vložka 39922
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26244535, Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by
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            Brandon Misch
<bmisch2...@gmail .com> To [email protected] 22/01/2010 06:42 cc Subject Re: synthisizers







what would be a great feature to add as an update or new realease
would
be
for a synth to switch to either dectalk or eloquence if a synth they
have chosen wasn't installed that way, the user won't have to go
through unloading and reloading window-eyes just to get speech back.
what do you all think?

On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

If you have the synthesizer installed, you can just switch to it.
However
if you don't have it installed, then you will not have speech when you
switch to a non-existing synthesizer. if you find that you've lost
speech,
you will need to switch to your old one by pressing control-backslash,
then
alt-f, then y, then home, then d, then enter and that will at least
get
you
speech with the built-in DEC Talk Access 32 for Window-Eyes.
Hope this helps.

On 1/21/2010 11:35 AM, Kimsan Song wrote:
Hi,

Is it possible to sample the different synthisizers because I would
hate
to click one and get no speech.


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