well, what would be nice is for window-eyes to automatically switch to dectalk that way the new user isn't out in the cold. it may be annoying for advanced users but would be great for beginners who think of rebooting or if they have it, loading another screen reader or something like that just to get speech back. just my views.
On Jan 24, 2010, at 10:56 AM, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote: > Hi the feature would be there lets say ok you use sapi and you have > naturally speaking installed so you select jenafer. Well because of a bad > design on the part of neuons that jenafer is in the sapi list even though > it will not work outside of dragon. So the user doesn't know this and says > oh wonder what she sounds like. So they switch to her and bam no speech. > Now the user who really knows the way around the control panel can get back > in to the select sinthasizers dialog switch to something else with no speech > and no big deal. The user who doesn't is left out in the cold with no > speech. Switching to the window-eyes default device would at least give the > user the ability to get back in with speech and change it to some thing > else. The reason I think it should be the dectalk is quite frankly the > dectalk always works it is the default sinthasizer for window-eyes and is > the most stable. > It is not like this is going to be an issue everyday but it is something > that should be done when it becomes a problem. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Hinton [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 3:46 PM > To: Ralf Kefferpuetz > Cc: Marek Durila; Brandon Misch; [email protected] > Subject: Re: synthesizers > > I don't really like this discussion. > Why sould GW Micro have to really go and do this anyways? It should be > obvious to the user whatever the synthesizer is that he/she is using. > If he/she switches, why should the screen reader kick back in with a > synthesizer that someone may not want in the first place? > What if the person in question is a hater of the DecTalk access32? > If that is a feature that is forced ont he user, then you will have > the customer yelling at GW Micro and Doug and Aaron to disable said > feature in the code. > If you ask me, this needs to be setup through a script as an otpional > feature, not one forced on the customer. > I for one, am totally aginst the all of you for wishing to have this > feature. > As for wanting to have such a feature in Window-Eyes, couldn't this be > scripted? This is a waist of GW Micro's development if you ask me. > Surely it is possible today, to take Window-Eyes and do this today. > If you want such a feature, code it yourself. That's my suggestion, > take it or leave it. There is no other choice in the matter. > This is my final opinion to this subject, and you will receive no more > replies from me on this particular thread. > Thanks. > > Regards, ---Keith > > > > On 1/23/10, Ralf Kefferpuetz <[email protected]> wrote: >> I totally disagree. Nothing is faster as the Eloquence coming with >> Window-Eyes and Jaws. >> >> >> Ralf Kefferpuetz * Germany * MSN/Live: [email protected] * Aim: >> RalfKatEMC * Skype/Yahoo: rkefferpuetz7747 >> http://blindpodcast.mypodcast.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Marek Durila [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 10:59 PM >> To: Brandon Misch >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: synthesizers >> >> Hi, >> Yes this is a true and I think, that it's pity. >> But if GW-Micro made a contract between them and RealSpeak, could be nice, >> because it's really faster then Sappy. >> With best regards, >> Marek Durila >> >> IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o., Sídlo: Brno, >> Technická 2995/21, PSC 61600 >> IC: 26244535, Zapsaná v obchodním rejstríku, vedeném Krajským soudem v > Brne >> oddíl C, vložka 39922 IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, >> s.r.o., Registered >> address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600 Company ID: 26244535, >> Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by the Regional Court in > Brno >> (Part C, Entry 39922) >> >> >> >> >> Brandon Misch >> <bmisch2...@gmail >> .com> To >> [email protected] >> 22/01/2010 16:48 cc >> >> Subject >> Re: synthesizers >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> i think realspeak direct is a jaws only thing. window-eyes at one time did >> have realspeak voices but gw never mentioned why after version 4.5 they > were >> never on a cd anymore. >> >> On Jan 22, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Marek Durila wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Will be implemented Direct voices from Real Speak as Jaws 10 has this? >>> Because the echo is faster than SAPPY. >>> With best regards, >>> Marek Durila >>> >>> IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o., Sídlo: >>> Brno, Technická 2995/21, PSC 61600 >>> IC: 26244535, Zapsaná v obchodním rejstríku, vedeném Krajským soudem v >> Brne >>> oddíl C, vložka 39922 >>> IBM Global Services Delivery Center Czech Republic, s.r.o., Registered >>> address: Brno, Technicka 2995/21, Zip code: 61600 Company ID: >>> 26244535, Entered in the Commercial Register maintained by >> the >>> Regional Court in Brno (Part C, Entry 39922) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Brandon Misch >> >>> <bmisch2...@gmail >> >>> .com> To >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> 22/01/2010 06:42 cc >> >>> >>> >>> Subject >> >>> Re: synthisizers >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> what would be a great feature to add as an update or new realease >>> would >> be >>> for a synth to switch to either dectalk or eloquence if a synth they >>> have chosen wasn't installed that way, the user won't have to go >>> through unloading and reloading window-eyes just to get speech back. >>> what do you all think? >>> >>> On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: >>> >>>> If you have the synthesizer installed, you can just switch to it. >> However >>> if you don't have it installed, then you will not have speech when you >>> switch to a non-existing synthesizer. if you find that you've lost >> speech, >>> you will need to switch to your old one by pressing control-backslash, >> then >>> alt-f, then y, then home, then d, then enter and that will at least >>> get >> you >>> speech with the built-in DEC Talk Access 32 for Window-Eyes. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps. >>>> >>>> On 1/21/2010 11:35 AM, Kimsan Song wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Is it possible to sample the different synthisizers because I would >> hate >>>>> to click one and get no speech. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>> sender only. 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