I David,
it doesn't sound like your problem is window-eyes related to tell the truth had a program and sorry I can't remember right now witch one it was that had menus that would not track. I want to say this happened with dragon naturally speaking at times. so to see if it was a window-eyes problem I tried it with another screen reader. guess what same issue. the menus were not getting focus and were not changing as I used the arrow keys. so I am thinking that some programs just have this issue at times. it was naturally speaking and it doesn't happen all the time but this is an issue with this program. some versions of Skype recently had this issue as well.

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From: "David" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 1:51 PM
To: "jim grimsby Jr." <[email protected]>; "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
Cc: "gw-info" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SysTray problem

I can but second these points. Another drawback, at least on my system, of using the WIN-B is that for every press on the arrow-keys, I hear the word 'SysTray' spoken. It goes on saying things like:
   SysTray, Avast!
SysTray, Windows Live Messenger.
SysTray, Notepad.
and so forth. This introductory 'SysTray' phrase does not speak when using the arrow-keys in the INS-S menu. Don't know, if there is a setting to avoid that one in the WIN-B.

Guess there is a reason, why GW leaves both ways of accessing the taskbar open. Otherwise, go ahead and remove the one of them, but I really think it should have worked here. Kind of puzzled, that it doesn't work properly, specially so, since I recently did a fresh install of WE 7.02, and ran the full range of updates. At the moment, I am running the 7.2B1, and the problem with INS-S has been persistent all the way through the installation/update process.


----- Original Message ----- From: "jim grimsby Jr." <[email protected]>
To: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
Cc: "gw-info" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: SysTray problem


well I will shed a lot of them.
advantages to the window-eyes system tray. it desplays in a list that always works. the windows+b command some times gets you stuck in a loop. for example run utorrent and at times you will think your on that button but it then updates and moves and your bam right back at the start of the tool bar. advantage to the window-eyes system tray. when just wanting to right click to turn something off you get placed back in the program where you issued the system tray command when done. with windows+b you get put back on the tool bar and you then have to alt+tab back to the running program you wanted to work with in the first place. can be a job if you lets say have 8 or more programs running as I do at times.
so please I beg of you don't remove this feature.


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From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:47 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: SysTray problem

If the insert-s system tray hot key capability went away, I would shed 0
tears. That being said, have you tried the real way of reaching the
system tray? Windows-B is the hot key and it works no matter which
window you are in. When you get there, arrow to your desired icon and
press space or applications key, depending on the properties of the icon
and you will have access to the menus.

Many thanks.

On 4/9/2010 3:17 AM, David wrote:
This situation, has been the case for all the time I can remember, in
WE. I will here but give one example, but it happens in a long range of
cases. Wonder why, and if there is - or can be - a fix for it.

Many a software place themselve in the SysTray. Sometimes, the entry is
but a notification, but in many cases, it is more of a menu bar. Like
with your AntiVirus. Scrolling down the list, and pressing ENTER on the
AntiVirus, you will have a menu of choices opening, specifically for the AntiVirus software. Well, that is what it is supposed to do, and does in
certain cases. But this is exactly where my challenge sits.

If, for instance, you are in Windows Explorer, then press INS-S, and
scroll down to your AntiVirus and hit ENTER; everything work just fine.
On the other hand, try go to WE controlPanel, by CTRL-\. Then press
INS-S, and repeat the steps. When pressing ENTER on your AntiVirus this
time, you are thrown back to WE ControlPanel, and nothing more happens -
no menu opened this time. I do see the same behavior, if I am in one of
my firewall's windows, and try to access any stuff in the SysTray. You
can scroll the list, but soon as you hit ENTER, expecting the submenu to
open, you are simply thrown back to your original window. If you are in
other windows - i.e Notepad, Outlook Express, Windows Explorer, your net
browser etc - and try to access any stuff in the SysTray, everything
work perfectly well, and you will be given the submenus.

Why is this happening. It simply doesn't make sense, that your access to
the submenus of the stuff in the SysTray, will be depending on which
window you are in, when opening the SysTray. Really hope that GW can
have a fix for this, before the 7.2 will be released. At least, I find
it rather bothersome, not to be able to have the full access in SysTray,
no matter what project I am currently working on.

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