hi together,

I think, there would be several problems to remove the browse mode or 
impliment a browse mode autoo off function!!!!

First, you would have to impliment another special key into all keyboards on 
the world. Why? Because you will have to use a second key to perform your 
browse commands ... and wich key would you like to use?
ctrl? No, because then you coulld not use shortcuts of the programms 
anymore. win? no, because you could not use Windows shortcuts anymore... So 
wich other ones?
yeah, you could press two special keys to use the browse mode, but then you 
would need more than one finger and you would loose all this commands for 
your personal shortcuts e.g. your scripts and so on.
So this may not work...

2nd browse mode auto off
This also will not work, how should the browser know, when you would like to 
enter something into a edit box? Or when you just want to go to the next one 
without entering some text into it...?
And even when starting to type text would just turn off browse mode 
automatically, how should WE know, when you would like to stop entering the 
text?

This would much more complicated, because you always would have to 
reactivate the browse mode at every input field you reach. And if you e.g. 
only need to enter every third one, you would have to reactivate the browse 
mode two times before reaching the next field you want to write into.
I would not like to use such a strange system.

I think everyone should be able to remember to press just an enter to write 
into a field and then reactivate the browse mode. This is and will ever be 
the easyest way of browsing webpages. Not at least because you only need 
single keystrokes to read, jump and enter something.

Every other solution would be much more complicated and take a lot more 
keypresses!

all the best,
Martin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]>
To: "'chris hallsworth'" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: Window-Eyes Suggestion


Sorry once again I have to disagree with this approach.  The better thing in
the long run is to get rid of brows mode.  And put in keys that perform the
task without having to turn one mode on and off.  We have mouse keys so why
not browsing document keys as well.  So when you get to the form etc you
just interact with the browser as you would with a normal program nothing to
turn on and off and then when you want to scan the document use the
window-eyes commands.
The problem is going to be if we do it with auto forms mode or whatever you
want to call it is people are going to be confused when forms mode is on and
when they are interacting with brows mode.  If you have a set of keys for
browsing and use the normal programs command for everything else no
confusing will happen.  It is like with the mouse keys there is no confusing
on if your moving the programs cursor or highlight or moving the mouse via
window-eyes.
Hth

-----Original Message-----
From: chris hallsworth [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 9:06 AM
To: Ray Campbell
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Window-Eyes Suggestion

Another screen reader also has this capability. It's one of the free ones.


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On 25/04/2010 17:04, Ray Campbell wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I would like to suggest in a future release of Window-Eyes that an 'Auto
> Browse Mode Off' feature be incorporated.  I'm working with someone right
> now who normally uses another screen reader with auto forms mode
capability,
> were you get to an edit box for example and just start typing something
> without hitting enter first.  The thing I'm working with her on requires
> that she use Window-Eyes and she has found it a bit difficult to remember
> that she has to hit enter to turn browse mode off in web forms before
> entering data.  The thing we are working on is a web application with
> several edit boxes.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Ray Campbell
> [email protected]
>
> Check out my blog: packerbackerray.blogspot.com
> Follow me on Twitter: www.twitter.com/packerbackerray
>
>
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