It was a different thing going from 95 98 me to the whole nt based thing.

That's not really a fair comparison, because that whole system was really a dos shell, with some 32 bit extensions and a hybrid thing going on, very unstable.

Xp when it came along did orphan some hardware, but only because legacy support for the isa bus, and paralel port etc was largely left off.

But the whole sorry vista thing was just really an attempt by ms to bully the public and it didn't work.

Because manufacturers weren't going to write drivers for all the little printers that only cost 30 bucks,
but the technology wasn't that much better,
oh some security things, and so us music types, if we ever get wasapi drivers, that promises to be good, and yeh, all the extra memory, but we didn't change bus technology, everything is still usb and firewire and pci express hasn't really taken of except for video cards.

But the stability hasn't gotten better, something like a screen-reader can still indeed bring the whole house down, and at the end of the day, companies don't really want to make you happy, and make your stuff work, it's all about the money,
make it work just well enough so you buy it, and then shell out for upgrades.

It's not let's make a rock solid os and keep improving it,
and make it better, it's let's make it so good, then scrap it and re-envent the wheel.

Why should peopole have to scramble every three years just to do simple things like write email, or burn cds?

This is old technology, these standards have been around for decades.

Pop 3, red book, you name it.

This is planned obselessance,
and shaking the money tree at it's best.

But I'm watching
the mac side of the fence with great interest, and i love what i see happening over there.

If it keeps getting better, now that we have a good leg up on protools accessibility
and this is with no extra screen-reader expense,
and how so many things are already built in and just work,
I hear high praise from those who have taken the plunge, xp may very well be the last os I really use on the pc side of things, unless it really gets way fricking better in the next 3 years or so.

I love window-eyes and what it's meant to us on this side of the fence, but I do think the times are a changing 'grin'.



At 01:19 AM 8/20/2010, Robert C wrote:
And seriously, how many average home computer users are looking that far ahead anyway? Why all this flap over an operating system that is perfectly functional and will be in 3-4 years?

I wonder how many perfectly good working computers ended up in landfills because people ran to get on the Windows 7 bandwagon? We do live in a throw away society after all.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
To: "GW INFO" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: It's your choice, Windows Seven or XP


xp will work fine as long as you don't plan on going on line.
there will be no support for any of your current software if you need help.
there will not be anymore critical updates to help keep the hackers out of your computer. no more xp driver support for anything you might want to buy or replace when it goes bad.
no xp support for window eyes or jaws, no xp support at all after 2013
so if you are going to use your computer for a fishing weight the go ahead. thats all it will be good for in 3 or 4 years.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C" <[email protected]>
To: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: It's your choice, Windows Seven or XP


What problem? Who says one has to upgrade all the time? And dont forget, there are alternatives. Who cares if IE 9 will not work on XP? IE 8 and older still wroks. As does Firefox.

This mentality of upgrading all the time does not make sense at all. No sooner you buy a new computer, its obsolete. There is always something newer better bigger. Productivity? How many people really care? What is it that drives so many people to try to get the latest and the greatest? Take the new iPhone as an example. 600,000 pre orders in the first week and many people camped out overnight to be first in line to buy them when they were released. Insanity.

   XP will run just fine for years.  So will the software that is used now.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: It's your choice, Windows Seven or XP


Hi,  the problem with this is that more and more software is not going to
work on xp.  So at some point you're going to have to choose if you want to
use the latest software to upgrade.  For example internet explorer 9 isn't
going to work on xp.  The windows live programs are not going to work and
there are others. Just like with windows 9x did a few years ago the
productivity is going to decrease for those users who do not choose to
upgrade.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Ferguson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: It's your choice, Windows Seven or XP

Hi Everyone,

I want you all to know, that just because we have chosen to go to Windows
Seven, we still have several computers here using XP for various reasons,
one of them being money it costs to upgrade.

I also wouldn't tell everyone to upgrade to Windows Seven, either.
It's an individual choice as to what one wants to do. <smile>

Just becuase many of us choose to use Windows Seven, that doesn't mean that
Windows XP isn't loving! <smile> lol.

Now, let's all be kind and loving to each other. <smile>

I think that those loving folks at GW Micro put up with a lot here. <grin>
lol.

I'm personally glad I don't run this list. <grin> lol.

If I didn't have a loving husband who is very techy and who installs
everything here, I mean operating systems, I would probably still be using
XP. lol.
Operating systems are Blessings.

Pat Ferguson
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