Ray,

I think the verdict is still out on how well the Apple model will work.  We 
need to see how committed they are in three or four years to really judge.  I 
would 
also note that I Tunes if far more accessible under Windows than Microsoft Word 
is on the MAC.  This comparison is not completely fair, but I think it still 
makes a valid point.  Would Microsoft have worked hard to make I tunes 
accessible if they had a full-featured screen reader, especially when they were 
pushing Zune?  What priority is apple giving to Microsoft Word on the MAC?  

Apple exercises a good deal more control over apps that run on their platform 
than does Microsoft.  This gives them the ability to put more of the work of 
accessibility on the application developer which means that VoiceOver does not 
have to do everything that Windows screen readers have to do.  Apple 
has full control of the hardware running their operating system unlike 
Microsoft.  This also simplifies things for them.  This control is helpful for 
them but it is 
probably partly why they don't have the market share that Windows has.    

As Microsoft tightens up their operating system, it could be that it will 
become easier for them to include a screen reader with Windows.  However, if it 
is any 
good, it is hard for me to see how companies such as GW Micro would have a 
large enough market left to sell enough to do what they do.  Probably people 
using a PC at home would benefit greatly, but would those of us who use less 
common software on the job be left out in the cold.  I don't know the exact 
answer, but if I had my preference, I'd like to see some competition remain 
with screen readers and for us to find ways of increasing funding available to 
blind people to purchase them.  This is a complex issue to say the least.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:54:35 +0000, Ray Campbell wrote:

>Hello All:

>I agree, for the most part, with GW Micro's response to the screen reader 
>questions.  There are a couple of areas I'd like to address.

>As a technical support professional, one of the areas that GW Micro still 
>needs to work on is remote support.  Freedom Scientific has done a huge 
>service 
to those of us providing technical support with the introduction of JAWS 
Tandem.  Nine times out of 10, when I talk with someone using JAWS version 10 
or higher that is having a problem, they will ask me to take over their 
computer with JAWS Tandem and fix the problem.  Tandem is built into JAWS and 
there is no additional charge.  While Serotek has also built a very good 
solution in Remote Incident Management (RIM), it costs $1,200 a year, very hard 
to 
justify for not-for-profit agencies like the one I work for.

>But, remote tools aren't just used by technical support professionals.  Tools 
>such as Go to My PC are used by business people to access data on their 
office PCs all the time.  I would like to see GW Micro continue working to make 
existing remote tools such as Remote Assistance, Go to My PC and Log Me 
In Pro fully accessible, regardless which end of the connection you are on.

>Window-eyes, from our perspective, provides the best support for so-called 
>green screen applications.  These are main frame applications which people 
sometimes have to use on the job.  Our agency contracts with the state of 
Illinois for one program where such an application is used.  Using Window-Eyes 
and a 80-cell Braille Display, a person who is totally blind can access this 
application, albeit the support could always be better.  JAWS won't even work 
with this application, and we haven't tested System Access or NVDA with it.  If 
we were able to do some scripting, I believe we could make the support with 
Window-Eyes even better.

>Finally, I'd like to address the issue of built-in screen readers.  I believe 
>that as the Mac becomes the computer of choice for people who are blind, 
Microsoft is going to need to incorporate a screen reader into Windows.  I use 
PCs exclusively at work and at home, and I've been a loyal Window-Eyes 
user for about 14 years.  However, I am increasingly becoming impressed with 
what the Mac and other Apple products using VoiceOver can do right out of 
the box.  While GW Micro deserves kudos for offering the Lease to Own plan, a 
plan not duplicated by other screen reader vendors, it's not the same as 
having accessibility right out of the box.

>Thanks for reading.


>Ray Campbell, Adaptive Technology Help Desk Technician
>The Chicago Lighthouse for People Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired
>1850 W. Roosevelt Road
>Chicago, IL  60608
>312.997.3651 (Voice/Relay) or 888.825.0080 (Voice/Relay)
>[email protected]
>www.chicagolighthouse.org



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