Douglas accidentally sent to me and he meant to go to the list.
From: douglas [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:35 PM To: John Gunn Subject: Re: suggested feature normally i to, won't reply to this kind o thing, but i will anyway. i have used jaws, and am using win eyes. I prefer win eyes over jaws, for the simple fact it is relyable. FS assing all these features like reasearch it, and the ribbon sh**, just create more problems for jaws to have. Like come on guys, jaws is a bata program for crying out loud. do we really want win eyes to go from what it is now, and what we have, and basically drop back multiple versions because all these add ons at first causing problems?... as for ms word ribbon, not sure why there is a problem with this, i am assuming that u mean the tool bar, with home, insert, and all that jazz, i have 0 difficulty. i onestly hate to say it here, but as blind people, we have to be more addaptive, with our programs and screen reading software. there is too much compotition out there, and will take gw down any chance they get, but if gw keeps their programs up to date, as best as they can make it, then we have nothing to worry about. Its all about addapting people. Win eyes as far as im concerned is way better the jaws will ever be, let alone most other screen reading software. <comatose <<dc3isme>> ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gunn <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:23 PM Subject: RE: suggested feature Andy: I usually don't comment on these types of emails but of course there are exceptions every rule. Smile I also have to agree with you, and the question is why can't a screen reader just be a screen reader? With out getting a debate started however I know from a demo I've heard JAWS can even get scores, weather, or people lookup and I didn't realize this is a part of a screen reader's purpose. Smile I could say more but must get back to work again. Huge smile From: Baracco, Andrew W [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: suggested feature I disagree here. The ribbons can be learned with a little study, and there are add-ons that you can buy that provide an alternative interface to the ribbons. I believe that the role of a screen reader is to provide access, not necessarily to provide an alternative interface. JAWS has done many things over the years to wed customers to their program. Older versions of JAWS used the F6 key to go to the desktop, even though there was an easy to use Windows hot key that would do the same. Research-it is an example of another such gimmick. It doesn't do anything that Google doesn't do, and it breaks every time one of the URLs it points to changes, requiring users to download and install another build of the program. And, if you are on the JAWS listservs, you will notice that the NUMPAD-INSERT key is referred to as the JAWS key, and JAWS users don't even know that it can perform other functions. These kinds of gimmicks are a way to hook customers and to make it much more difficult to contemplate switching to another product. Andy From: John W. Carty [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:40 AM To: 'gw-info (List)' Subject: suggested feature The competition has lots of problems and this is why I've switched over to WE. However, in the latest release of the competition they came out with a virtual ribbon. The user has the choice to switch this feature on or off. This offers a dramatic improvement for navigating the menu ribbon in ms office. I'd like to see gw do the same. Thanx, John If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
