IN FAIRNESS TO JAWS, THAT DUBIOUS FEATURE WHICH GRABS THE SPORTS SCORES CAN ALSO BE USED TO MAKE CUSTOM databases accessible. Thus it comes in super handy in some work situations. I realize that's not the way the feature was toted to you and I, but if it could actually get some of us jobs who wouldn't otherwise have them, then it's hard to poopoo the feature.
Ribbons are a pain in the neck, but we can switch to apple and use Iwork if the ribbons do that little for us. I get to teach jaws, window-eyes, voiceover, and all the goodies that come along with it, and I like to teach things as they are, not as how I wish they were. The virtual ribbon feature smacks of wishes being wings to me, but Hoe hum. Maybe some one will script it for us and then users will have the choice with window-eyes as they soon will with jaws. Best, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, One on one access technology support and training over the phone or in person, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2010-11-17, at 3:23 PM, John Gunn wrote: > Andy: > > I usually don’t comment on these types of emails but of course there are > exceptions every rule. Smile > > I also have to agree with you, and the question is why can’t a screen reader > just be a screen reader? With out getting a debate started however I know > from a demo I’ve heard JAWS can even get scores, weather, or people lookup > and I didn’t realize this is a part of a screen reader’s purpose. Smile > > I could say more but must get back to work again. Huge smile > > > > From: Baracco, Andrew W [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 2:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: suggested feature > > I disagree here. The ribbons can be learned with a little study, and there > are add-ons that you can buy that provide an alternative interface to the > ribbons. I believe that the role of a screen reader is to provide access, > not necessarily to provide an alternative interface. JAWS has done many > things over the years to wed customers to their program. Older versions of > JAWS used the F6 key to go to the desktop, even though there was an easy to > use Windows hot key that would do the same. Research-it is an example of > another such gimmick. It doesn’t do anything that Google doesn’t do, and it > breaks every time one of the URLs it points to changes, requiring users to > download and install another build of the program. And, if you are on the > JAWS listservs, you will notice that the NUMPAD-INSERT key is referred to as > the JAWS key, and JAWS users don’t even know that it can perform other > functions. These kinds of gimmicks are a way to hook customers and to make it > much more difficult to contemplate switching to another product. > > Andy > > > From: John W. Carty [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:40 AM > To: 'gw-info (List)' > Subject: suggested feature > > The competition has lots of problems and this is why I’ve switched over to > WE. However, in the latest release of the competition they came out with a > virtual ribbon. The user has the choice to switch this feature on or off. > > This offers a dramatic improvement for navigating the menu ribbon in ms > office. > > I’d like to see gw do the same. > > Thanx, > > John > > If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
