lets try to put this in some perspective. msaa is old and quite frankly is
not going to be used. so supporting new programs. so has it ever accurd to
any of you people that getting this support is the start on the path to a
new brows mode? internet explorer 9 is in beta and I do believe it uses UIA
and so that will be the next version of internet explore so if gw micro has
brows mode done buy the time it is released or shortly there after that
would be good. your grand kids indeed isn't that an exaggeration of a
rather high magnitude.
Jim Grimsby JR.
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From: "David" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 6:37 AM
To: "Don H" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WE 7.5
Apparently, we are at least two!
Sorry, GW. Yes, I do see your point, that it was of great interest to
ensure support for 64-bit, Win7, and office 2010. And as such, OK you put
browse mode on the side board for a while. But won't that be exactly what
is going to happen over and over again? Tomorrow, a new Windows, Office or
technology is going to come out. And, you - are going to 'have to' put
browse mode OFF for yet a bit of time. OK, you could always keep wetting
people's apetite by telling them, it will come in the next version. Then,
just make sure WE8 won't be out, till you have had your time on fixing the
stuff. Well, I am sorry. That way, browse mode would never be fixed. And,
it would have been more fair to tell us, that it will be fixed the day my
grand-children graduates. Smile!
I think it was Doug, who stated in the podcast, that people REALLY NEED
the UIA (or whatever it was called). Be it so! Yet, out of the thousands
of users of WE worldwide, I guess we could at the best say there is fifty
percent that has a job, another thirty percent that are students, and the
rest private users (only using their WE for home usage). OK, the figures
might be discussed - but at the best these are the numbers. Out of all the
working and studying people, a handful might still be in institutions
where they can cling on to their old stuff. Fact is, I guess it is more
like several handfuls, since not all companies run out and spend thousands
of dollars, on upgrading to every new version of Office, for instance.
And, an even bigger handful, will be in working situations, where they
don't need the newest versions of all of this, so as to perform their
everyday job. And, how many of the home users do you expect, run down at
the corner store, to pick up every single new-comer the market wants to
throw on us? How many private ecconomies has the shoulders to carry such
expenses? At the very end of the figure, we are left with a handful - or
two - that REALLY NEED their UIA support. Fine, go ahead and give them
this support in WE. But, don't forget, that more like ONE-HUNDRED PERCENT
of your customers, are using the browse mode, every day - SEVERAL times a
day - and for more than one software or kind of operation.
Take a look at the mailing list, for instance. How many users have
actually been on there, the last six months, asking for support for the
MSAA replacement? Now, turn over the page, and count the number of users,
telling they are experiencing trouble in accessing web pages. Which of
these numbers do you find the highest? My calculator has but ONE answer,
and I guess it is no special-edition calculator. Smile! If it was only a
few web pages, we could have told people to stay away from them. But it is
not. It is more or less all cross the board; people can't access certain
critical features of the page. Browse mode does not load properly, leaving
the user without speech, till he closes the web browser. And, a few more
'good reasons' for calling for the new browse mode to come out. THIS, is
the everyday most of us are facing. Listening to your customers, might
call for a fix. THAT, is what we have heard for months, and years, will be
fixed in the next major version. True, it is not around yet - that major
version - but it sure would be nice to have it here. Chances are, that the
users will find other screen readers handling web pages more sufficiently,
hence choose to switch to another screen reader. Not right away. Not
because they don't like WE, or prefer the other alternatives. Simply
because, they HAVE TO - so as to be able to handle their everyday tasks.
And, if browse mode always will have to leave the board, so as to make
room for the other 'important' stuff, when do you expect browse mode to
have its update?
As a footer to all of this, keep in mind, that MANY a user is NOT located
in the USA. Typically, the local version of WE in my area, is released
just about six months after the US version has had its final release. That
means, the users who has to wait for the new versions of WE in their local
flavor, will have to fall even more behind, before they get their hands on
a version that deals with the modern world. I.e, Microsoft did release
Vista in our area, pretty much at the same time as the US version. Yet,
the local WE users did have no access to Vista, for another half-year.
When you finally decide to release WE8, with the new browse mode
implemented, the non-US users might have to sit back for months, before
they finally can start to enjoy the upgraded browse mode. Do you think
internet will 'sit back' and wait for them to go modern? Allright, you
have no control over the internet. And GW staff, you don't have the full
control over how quickly things are translated. I do see these points.
Yet, since this is the experienced facts, keeping putting 'browse mode'
off for eternity, will just make the non-US users even more left behind,
since they will have to expect browse mode trouble for even longer.
With the risk of sounding merely negative and critical, I am putting out
those thoughts. I really try not to be negative. Yet, I do hold, there is
many a user - that feel the same disappointment that do I, knowing we once
again have been thrown off the chariot, being told that browse mode is not
facing any immediate upgrade.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:07 PM
Subject: WE 7.5
If I understood the Blind Bargains interview discussing WE 7.5 browse
mode still won't be fixed with this release.
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