Steve, Maybe another apology is in order from me. What you have discovered about attachments is exactly how it works in Notes 8.0. I did not describe that to you because my 8.5 acts differently so I assumed yours would too, but now I am thinking I need to check my 8.5 options. In addition to what you said about the first letter, usually the current line key will read the entire link, CONTROL NUMPAD 5. Also, if you navigate to an internet link in this way, you may find that you need to activate with the SPACE BAR. If the ARROW keys are working for you, you will find that they are useful in many ways, even to get to buttons that are placed in notes. It is common where I work to have a note telling you about an event and including an add to calendar button. This is different than a meeting invitation. Did you find the attach menu?
It probably wouldn't hurt to have a knowledge base article on this, but Lotus Notes seems to be on the way out. There are not that many users. I think I hear Doug Geoffray cheering. <smile> Again, I should have explained about the arrows in case they worked for you but my experience indicated that they wouldn't. I'll have to check my 8.5 options. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 03:56:15 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: >Hey thanks, Steve for these extra tips. I've been in the preferences >dialog but didn't recall that huge list of toggles; I definitely need >to spend some more time in there. >Now given the attachments question, I found a consistent way to deal >with these. I discovered that if I turn off browse mode while in a >message body, I can then use left and right arrows to move among the >one or more attachments. This arrowing also includes the first letter >of each link that is available in that message. I'm not sure what >would happen if there is only one file and no other objects present. >It is important to remember to use the arrow keys and not the tab. If >tab is pressed, you will be focused to the message list and then >tabbing again will take you back to the message and I think browse >mode would come back on; need to finalize that thought. >I'll tell you, with all these e-mails I've gathered on this subject, I >might be able to write up a knowledge base article for GW Micro for >Lotus Notes but I've only been using the program for a week now so am >hardly an expert -- more like, beginner! <smile> >On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 09:06:06AM -0500, Steve Jacobson wrote: >> Steve, >> >> I apologize, I got home late last night and did not have a chance to >> investigate the attachment business. I'll try to do it over the weekend. >> >> There is an option in Lotus Notes Preferences that determines if you use >> their browser or your default browser. You might as well plunge into the hundreds >> of options that there are. Go to the file menu, preferences, and within >> that go to User Preferences. Once you are there, you will see that this is a multi-page >> dialog. If you stay on the "Basics" tab and tab through, you will find a >> sort of list box with about 40 entries. It is entitled "Additional Options," but the title is >> not always read. Each entry is Selected or unselected. In time, you will >> change other entries on this control, but it is easy to miss it as you tab through. The >> selected option is usually the last one you accessed so I can't tell you >> what you will here, but listen to the indexes and look for something with thirty or forty >> choices based upon the Window-Eyes index. One of these options is "Use Web >> Pallet." On the Notes 8.0 version I'm running here, it is the 14th of forty >> options. Also, ignore the reporting of check boxes. If the item is >> unchecked, you will hear "Unselected". If it is checked you will hear no status at all, but >> the check box is always reported as "Unchecked. There might be a way to fix >> this but once I figured it out it just wasn't worth my time. Pressing the space >> bar changes the status. For example, what I hear is "Unchecked, Use web >> pallet unselected fourteen of forty". If I press SPACE, I still hear "Unchecked" >> but the "Unselected" is gone. It just says "Unchecked, use web pallet >> fourteen of forty." Have I beaten it to death yet? There is another option on this >> same list in position 22 here that says "Disable imbeded browser for Mime >> Mail". I have that selected as well, but quite honestly, I don't know what that >> does. I am now wondering if I have that selected on my 8.5 version at home. >> I also have found that specifying system colors improves the Window-Eyes >> behavior when selecting text. There is an option that says to "Use Standard >> Dialog Boxes" which I have selected, but I've never figured out what >> difference it makes. Two other choices you should experiment with are "Use >> TAB to navigate Read-only Documents" and ""Use Accessibility keyboard >> navigation." In version 8.0, these are the 27th and 28th options. They may >> be different in 8.5 but they are in the same area. With Browse Mode Off, the >> TAB key can be used to jump to the next unread document. The first of these >> options I believe is supposed to let you travel within a read-only document >> such as to get to attachments and such. This interacts with the "Use >> Accessibility Keyboard Navigation" and the two seem to affect each other. I have >> both of these turned on, but I don't know if this makes the most sense or >> not. >> >> I hope some of this helps, and I will try to double-check some of this on >> the 8.5 version I have installed at home and also tell you how I get to attachments >> there. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> >> On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 05:28:18 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >> >I also found that with some mails if files are attached, I can just >> >hit the context key anywhere in the message and I will see attachment >> >options. the first message I received with files attached did not >> >give me this behavior aaand that's why I bugged this list with this >> >other notes question. >> >> >Not all Lotus Notes questions are created equal, I guess. >> >> >Also, I find that if I click a link in a Lotus Notes message, I am >> >stuck inside Notes' browser interface instead of a reall browser and >> >with this situation, WE's browse mode is much harder to work with. >> >> >On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:46:09AM -0500, Steve Jacobson wrote: >> >> Steve, >> >> >> >> How to get attachments is one of those things that I found changed with >> >> 8.5. However, I did not get the basic notes shortcut in my install, so there may >> >> be other things that are different with your installation. Before 8.5, >> >> you could turn browse mode off and use the arrow keys to arrow through links and >> >> attachments. When you find an attachment, an attachments pulldown >> >> becomes active on the menu bar and there is a "save" option there. Try that just >> >> in case it works on your version. If the arrow keys don't do anything, >> >> I'll have to try this when I get home this evening since that's where I have 8.5 to >> >> refresh my memory. I think I had to TAB and then use the arrows. If you >> >> click on an attachment, it may activate the menu item I mentioned above, but I >> >> think it opens a properties dialog that does not read as well but may >> >> work for you in a pinch today. There may be other approaches, but it seems that >> >> those of us using Notes, particularly 8.5, are getting very scarce. By >> >> the way, if you get wind of the old Blind- Notes mailing list, don't subscribe unless >> you >> >> want to test out your spam filter. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> Steve Jacobson >> >> >> >> On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:06:19 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >> >> >> >Thanks to both Steve and Marten for the excellent ideas. I already >> >> >saw Steve's message yesterday while searching GW Micro's site for >> >> >anything, 'Lotus Notes.' I found on my computer, a link on the >> >> >desktop called 'Lotus Notes 8.5 Basic' which launches the nlnotes.exe; >> >> >what an improvement! I was actually able to use the program >> >> >productively. >> >> >> >> >I do have another question though. How do you save attachments from >> >> >an e-mail. If this gets too off topic for GW Micro, I'm willing to >> >> >take it private but right now, it might still be an issue with using >> >> >WE in conjunction with Notes. >> >> >> >> >Also, I notice that if browse mode gets turned off while inside Notes >> >> >like when filling out a HTML form after clicking a link in a Notes >> >> >message, browse mode breaks completely and I have to recycle >> >> >Window-Eyes to get browse mode to function properly again. Has anyone >> >> >experienced this last issue? >> >> >> >> >On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 08:26:03PM +0100, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote: >> >> >> Hi Steve, >> >> >> >> >> >> My first thought was, to replace the startup-shortcut from notes2.exe >> >> >> to >> >> >> nlnotes.exe as Steve Jacobson suggested. >> >> >> >> >> >> When that more accessible version of notes is started, press alt-b to >> >> >> go >> >> >> to the bookmark-list. In the dutch notes version it is alt-b. I think >> >> >> in >> >> >> the english version too. >> >> >> The first option here is to open your mailbox. >> >> >> Go to this option and press the contextkey. Arrow to Set bookmark as >> >> >> favorite or something like that. >> >> >> This will make your mailbox the default page when starting notes. >> >> >> >> >> >> And take a look at the options at the file/preferences/ user >> >> >> preferences >> >> >> menu and the list of options here. >> >> >> >> >> >> In the notes help, there is something about accessibility. Also with >> >> >> Google you will find things about Lotus notes and accessibility. >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards, Marten >> >> >> On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 03:51:30 -0700 Steve Holmes >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >Well, I just had a nightmaire at the office yesterday <smile>. I see >> >> >> >we use Lotus Notes 8.5.something at IBM and frankly, the default >> >> >> >accessibility proved to be a disaster. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >I never paid any attention to Notes related messages in the past >> >> >> >because I never had to put up with the application and I heard so much >> >> >> >bad press about it. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Are there any quick references or notes on how to get WE to work >> >> >> >better with this? I installed the Lotus Notes set files that comes >> >> >> >with WE 7.5 but it doesn't appear to be associated. I know it has >> >> >> >been workable with WE in the past but I've lost track of how current >> >> >> >versions of Notes does with WE these days. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Can anyone catch me up to speed here? In the meantime, I'll look >> >> >> >through any past archives or knowledge base aarticles on the subject. >> >> >> >If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >> >> >> >sender only. 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