what you are saying is half true.
w e stops talking when no program at all has crashed too.
this is happen about 3 times per hour. w e also has a alarm that sounds if w e crashes and removes itself from memory. when this happens a error report will be generated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1


hi,
the windows bug is really that when programs stop responding windows programs trying to access deep levels of the operating system get thrown out of the loop. what happens most of the time when you lose speech is your running program x. program x stops working so now window-eyes stops speaking. is there anything wrong with window-eyes. no actually window-eyes is working just fine it got kicked out of the playground so to speak buy the program that has stopped working. when or if you could get the program that has misbehaved to close you would probably find that speech returns. this is a problem with all screen readers jaws NVDA and even narrator.
here is an example.
was running internet explorer on the mlb sight this morning. explorer stoped running. no speech started nvda to see if I could get speech from that no dice. finely just restarted the system. as soon as I started explorer I was told that my web page caused a problem and would recover. so I know that exploerer was what caused the problem. oh started jaws with this test to and it would not speak either. but as you say had windows sounds. so just remember that every time you lose speech it might not be the fault of your screen reader. in fact here most of the time I have found buy doing the research that it is another program that foobars everything.




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-----Original Message----- From: James Mannion
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: tony c ; Alan Siman ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1

I have also had the problem with the loss of speech randomly on many
occasions and I do nt ever remember it being a total loss of sounds
under window 7. The need to reboot or at leastlog out at that point
always produces the window souns. The windows sound for the error
message that window-eyes is already loaded still plays. You can be
doing anything it seems when this loss of speech will randomly happen.
I created the batch file as suggested a while back and using it does
not allow window-eyes to be reloaded after it is used.  I really wish
we could at least be told what the cause of this problem is instead of
us all validating it and nothing ever coming of it and hearing nothing
in response other than blaming the windows bug of loss of all sound
when that is not what happen.

On 6/23/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
As something you might try, put a shortcut to a batch file which kills
WE on your desktop and put a letter in the shortcut field and under
advanced options, check run as administrator.  then if WE gets stuck,
press control-alt and the letter and shift tab when the user account
control comes up, wait a few seconds and you may be able to start WE
again.

tony c <[email protected]> wrote:

I’m not using T B and it still happens. The last one was in WLM while I
was trying to read a link address back to netflix customer service...
Tony C

From: Alan Siman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1


I am having the same issue starting today. WE has crashed twice but win7
sounds are still on and the same inability to close we is here.  I even
tried task manager and we would not close.  I wonder if it is the tb
enhanced ap which I reloved and put back today.

On 6/23/2011 6:21 PM, Don H wrote:
  The random loss of speech is no better with WE 7.5.1.
  I understand that Windows 7 has a known bug where you loose all sound.
  But in these cases only WE speech stops.  It can happen at any time.
When it happens I can't access the WE user interface and if you attempt to
reload WE you get the message that WE is already running.
The last time it happened to me was when I was simply trying to check a
checkbox in windows update.  The time before that I was just using IE.
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