That's very strange indeed. Windows 7 should run fast if not faster than
XP. But your mileage may vary. I'm not knocking XP users here, but I
realy do think XP is not the native OS for me. I can happily run it in a
virtual machine, but that's it as far as I am concerned. So what specs
is your machine that was running 7 on? Microsoft recommends 1 GB of RAM
and 16 GB of hard disk space for 32 bit and 2 GB of RAM and 20 GB of
hard disk space for 64 bit.
Chris Hallsworth
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On 24/06/2011 11:12, Robert wrote:
General instability, nothing I can put my finger on. Also, win7 was a
lot slower than xp. For instance it would sometimes take nearly five
minutes to open an email message. A reboot fixed it, but a day later, it
was back to the same old tricks. So I Finally gave up and went back to
xp and everything runs fine.
----- Original Message ----- From: "chris hallsworth"
<[email protected]>
To: "Robert" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 4:19 AM
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
Interesting you had stability issues with Windows 7. So please tell us
what problems you had? I am personally interested as I love Windows 7
to bits. Admittedly I went back to 32 bit because I have stuff that
will not work on 64 bit but that is not why I am asking. Granted XP is
still supported until 2014 but am curious nonetheless. Been using
Windows 7 since the public beta and haven't looked back.
Chat soon.
Chris Hallsworth
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On 24/06/2011 09:09, Robert wrote:
Just updated, but I'm back on xp and so far it hasn't happened. I got
tired of everything crashing and my windows 7 system not being able to
stay running reliably for more than a day, so I said heck with it and
went back to xp after six or so months.
----- Original Message ----- From: "net bat" <[email protected]>
To: "Robert" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
have you tried the 3.6.18 f f version?
i got this update last night and so far f f has not crashed. it use to
always crash when i closed the program. not even this has been
happening with this version.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
I find that killing the process where you are at when the speech loss
occurs restores speech. For instance, if you're in firefox and
wineyes stops speaking, the computer will slow dramatically, and if
you kill firefox.exe in taskman it will often result in you getting
your speech back. Kind of a pain and I have no idea what causes it.
This doesn't always work, but it usually does.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Grimsby JR."
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
hi,
the windows bug is really that when programs stop responding windows
programs trying to access deep levels of the operating system get
thrown out of the loop. what happens most of the time when you lose
speech is your running program x. program x stops working so now
window-eyes stops speaking. is there anything wrong with
window-eyes. no actually window-eyes is working just fine it got
kicked out of the playground so to speak buy the program that has
stopped working. when or if you could get the program that has
misbehaved to close you would probably find that speech returns.
this is a problem with all screen readers jaws NVDA and even
narrator.
here is an example.
was running internet explorer on the mlb sight this morning.
explorer stoped running. no speech started nvda to see if I could
get speech from that no dice. finely just restarted the system. as
soon as I started explorer I was told that my web page caused a
problem and would recover. so I know that exploerer was what caused
the problem.
oh started jaws with this test to and it would not speak either. but
as you say had windows sounds.
so just remember that every time you lose speech it might not be the
fault of your screen reader. in fact here most of the time I have
found buy doing the research that it is another program that foobars
everything.
jim grimsby skypejim grimsby
skype jim.grimsby
-----Original Message----- From: James Mannion
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: tony c ; Alan Siman ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
I have also had the problem with the loss of speech randomly on many
occasions and I do nt ever remember it being a total loss of sounds
under window 7. The need to reboot or at leastlog out at that point
always produces the window souns. The windows sound for the error
message that window-eyes is already loaded still plays. You can be
doing anything it seems when this loss of speech will randomly
happen.
I created the batch file as suggested a while back and using it does
not allow window-eyes to be reloaded after it is used. I really wish
we could at least be told what the cause of this problem is
instead of
us all validating it and nothing ever coming of it and hearing
nothing
in response other than blaming the windows bug of loss of all sound
when that is not what happen.
On 6/23/11, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
As something you might try, put a shortcut to a batch file which
kills
WE on your desktop and put a letter in the shortcut field and under
advanced options, check run as administrator. then if WE gets stuck,
press control-alt and the letter and shift tab when the user account
control comes up, wait a few seconds and you may be able to start WE
again.
tony c <[email protected]> wrote:
I’m not using T B and it still happens. The last one was in WLM
while I
was trying to read a link address back to netflix customer
service...
Tony C
From: Alan Siman
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Loss of speech continues with WE 7.5.1
I am having the same issue starting today. WE has crashed twice
but win7
sounds are still on and the same inability to close we is here. I
even
tried task manager and we would not close. I wonder if it is the tb
enhanced ap which I reloved and put back today.
On 6/23/2011 6:21 PM, Don H wrote:
The random loss of speech is no better with WE 7.5.1.
I understand that Windows 7 has a known bug where you loose all
sound.
But in these cases only WE speech stops. It can happen at any time.
When it happens I can't access the WE user interface and if you
attempt to
reload WE you get the message that WE is already running.
The last time it happened to me was when I was simply trying to
check a
checkbox in windows update. The time before that I was just
using IE.
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