Thanks. I'll try and remember that this time. -----Original Message----- From: patrick [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:54 AM To: Sandra Fouts Subject: Re: WE and OCR
control f from app get, type what you're looking for. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]> To: "'Amanda Lee'" <[email protected]>; "gw-info" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:51 AM Subject: RE: WE and OCR I still haven't figured out the quickest to find the I want to download instead of needing to scan through all the apps. -----Original Message----- From: Amanda Lee [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:49 AM To: Sandra Fouts; gw-info Subject: Re: WE and OCR I hope there's a billion aps. The more the better as it really really will demonstrate how powerful and flexible Window-Eyes is to customize to enable so much more than the competition to be accessible. I still see that many don't see this power. When Window-Eyes versions are generated, they already contain the major Apps needed. It takes literally seconds to say 'Yes' to download Apps so I find it disturbing that some would prefer less accessibility over a minor inconvenience. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]> To: "'Stephen Clower'" <[email protected]>; "David" <[email protected]> Cc: "shannon" <[email protected]>; "Don H" <[email protected]>; "gwmicro" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:31 PM Subject: RE: WE and OCR > By the time the next version of Window-eyes comes out, what are we > going to have, just the innerface with 100000000 apps to download? > I pray and hope not! > Besides, there's libal to be one that says something like, "If you > want this screen reader to even work, download this app." Sorry > couldn't resist. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Clower [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:08 AM > To: David > Cc: shannon; Don H; gwmicro > Subject: Re: WE and OCR > > Greetings, > > Just to reiterate a point made yesterday, our scripting interface is > powerful enough to allow anyone with the requisite knowledge and time > to develop such an app today-- without having to wait for us to either > write one or integrate such functionality into Window-Eyes directly. > > Regards, > Steve > > > On 9/28/2011 11:59 AM, David wrote: >> Way I see it, if GW - or anyone else - would make onscreen OCR >> available, it would sure make a leap forward. But not just forward, >> rather even into the modern-day world. >> >> True, there is a load of features that might be of high importance, >> for a screen reader to deal with. And likely we could have made a >> list, that would range the priority of a number of them, higher than >> Onscreen OCR. >> I am not going to argue about that. But still, more and more cases >> will arise, where the onscreen OCR will come in handy. And, as such, >> I do hold it to be worth to consider having the screen reader handle >> those cases as well. Maybe we are not even aware of all the cases >> where it would prove helpful. Today, we are unable to handle this and >> that task properly; and hence deem it inaccessible. Why? Because we >> don't see the screen. Our screen reader goes quiet. And we, judge >> that ther there is nothing on the screen but graphics. In reality, >> maybe the document or any other text, might have been fully >> accessible, if there was such a thing as Onscreen OCR. With the risk >> of having a ton of people arguing me, I do dare to claim, if the >> thing is not good for any reason - then why is it that other screen >> reader manufacturers have ever bothered to put resources into the matter. >> >> And, as for the legality of performing such OCR, I am not sure about >> every country's local laws. Yet, I would think there could be strong >> reasons, why any blind person would have his full rights to OCR any >> written document. OK, a printed document could have a copyright >> statement, that it is not to be reproduced in electronic format. As >> such, you could claim, it was illegal for me to OCR that printed paper. >> Yet most countries would accept me doing so, realizing that it is the >> only way for me to get my hands on the information. When comes to >> onscreen OCR though, any such statement will already have fallen to >> the ground - due to the fact, they are already electronic - the >> documents. >> The term ONSCREEN OCR, indicates that the document has to be on your >> screen first-hand, and you then run an OCR on it. In other words, if >> an author makes his document available in a format that shows up on >> your screen, that document is already in an electronic format. Hence >> you are not reproducing anything at all, and therefore should not be >> violating any law. Look upon your OCR as your reading glasses. Are >> you going to tell your grandmother, that she is not allowed to put on >> her reading glasses? Would she violate any law by using glasses when >> reading her newspaper, correspondance, restaurant menus, or >> ingredience list on the groceries? Well, you are doing exactly the >> same thing, only in a far more hazzled way - with your computer. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "shannon" >> <[email protected]> >> To: "Don H" <[email protected]>; "gwmicro" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:15 PM >> Subject: Re: WE and OCR >> >> >>> I would agree with you. >>> I have been looking for a OCR program too and I have had little success. >>> I downloaded the fine reader demo and I could not make much of it >>> and now my trial is out of time. It is buy it or unload it, and it >>> put files all over my system. >>> I know open book is designed for the blind user but it is so >>> expensive. I wish there was a way to make one of the less expensive >>> ones work well. >>> Shannon >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <[email protected]> >>> To: "gwmicro" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:00 AM >>> Subject: WE and OCR >>> >>> >>>> I have always thought it would be a great idea to pick one of the >>>> available OCR programs like finereader or what ever create a App to >>>> make it more user friendly with WE and maybe just maybe take some >>>> sales away from FS and Open Book which is so expensive. >>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>> sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and >>>> your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending >>>> your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. >>>> >>>> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. 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