Hello Sandra,
I don't understand why you would hope that there aren't as many apps for
window eyes as possible. After all this extends window eyes is
functionality. It also gives you the user personal choice. You can decide
whether or not you need a particular feature or function and if it doesn't
do anything you need then there's no need to download it. For example,
there is an app for AOL Instant Messenger this is wonderful for those people
who uses AOL Instant Messenger but considering the fact that you use AOL
Instant Messenger I do not install this app because it would do me
absolutely no good. However, I do use Skype so I installed that particular
app because that will suit my needs. Where the person who uses AOL Instant
Messenger may not use Skype and therefore he has no use for it.
Unlike with other screen readers such as jaws window eyes has a single
repository where you can acquire all of your applications. It has a very
simple utility included which is also an app which will help you get the
apps you need for window eyes. This really is the same kind of system as
the set file manager you install the set file that you need and you do not
install the ones that you don't. The same is true for apps you install the
apps that will suit your needs and you don't install the ones that will not.
It gives you the user. The maximum amount of choice. This is a win-win
situation.
I hope this helps.
Jim grimsby Jr.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sandra Fouts
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:31 AM
To: 'Stephen Clower' ; David
Cc: shannon ; Don H ; gwmicro
Subject: RE: WE and OCR
By the time the next version of Window-eyes comes out, what are we going to
have, just the innerface with 100000000 apps to download? I pray and hope
not!
Besides, there's libal to be one that says something like, "If you want
this screen reader to even work, download this app." Sorry couldn't
resist.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Clower [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 11:08 AM
To: David
Cc: shannon; Don H; gwmicro
Subject: Re: WE and OCR
Greetings,
Just to reiterate a point made yesterday, our scripting interface is
powerful enough to allow anyone with the requisite knowledge and time to
develop such an app today-- without having to wait for us to either write
one or integrate such functionality into Window-Eyes directly.
Regards,
Steve
On 9/28/2011 11:59 AM, David wrote:
Way I see it, if GW - or anyone else - would make onscreen OCR
available, it would sure make a leap forward. But not just forward,
rather even into the modern-day world.
True, there is a load of features that might be of high importance,
for a screen reader to deal with. And likely we could have made a
list, that would range the priority of a number of them, higher than
Onscreen OCR.
I am not going to argue about that. But still, more and more cases
will arise, where the onscreen OCR will come in handy. And, as such, I
do hold it to be worth to consider having the screen reader handle
those cases as well. Maybe we are not even aware of all the cases
where it would prove helpful. Today, we are unable to handle this and
that task properly; and hence deem it inaccessible. Why? Because we
don't see the screen. Our screen reader goes quiet. And we, judge that
ther there is nothing on the screen but graphics. In reality, maybe
the document or any other text, might have been fully accessible, if
there was such a thing as Onscreen OCR. With the risk of having a ton
of people arguing me, I do dare to claim, if the thing is not good for
any reason - then why is it that other screen reader manufacturers
have ever bothered to put resources into the matter.
And, as for the legality of performing such OCR, I am not sure about
every country's local laws. Yet, I would think there could be strong
reasons, why any blind person would have his full rights to OCR any
written document. OK, a printed document could have a copyright
statement, that it is not to be reproduced in electronic format. As
such, you could claim, it was illegal for me to OCR that printed paper.
Yet most countries would accept me doing so, realizing that it is the
only way for me to get my hands on the information. When comes to
onscreen OCR though, any such statement will already have fallen to
the ground - due to the fact, they are already electronic - the documents.
The term ONSCREEN OCR, indicates that the document has to be on your
screen first-hand, and you then run an OCR on it. In other words, if
an author makes his document available in a format that shows up on
your screen, that document is already in an electronic format. Hence
you are not reproducing anything at all, and therefore should not be
violating any law. Look upon your OCR as your reading glasses. Are you
going to tell your grandmother, that she is not allowed to put on her
reading glasses? Would she violate any law by using glasses when
reading her newspaper, correspondance, restaurant menus, or
ingredience list on the groceries? Well, you are doing exactly the
same thing, only in a far more hazzled way - with your computer.
----- Original Message ----- From: "shannon"
<[email protected]>
To: "Don H" <[email protected]>; "gwmicro" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: WE and OCR
I would agree with you.
I have been looking for a OCR program too and I have had little success.
I downloaded the fine reader demo and I could not make much of it and
now my trial is out of time. It is buy it or unload it, and it put
files all over my system.
I know open book is designed for the blind user but it is so
expensive. I wish there was a way to make one of the less expensive
ones work well.
Shannon
----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <[email protected]>
To: "gwmicro" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:00 AM
Subject: WE and OCR
I have always thought it would be a great idea to pick one of the
available OCR programs like finereader or what ever create a App to
make it more user friendly with WE and maybe just maybe take some
sales away from FS and Open Book which is so expensive.
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