When it comes to apps here's what I do immediately after every
installation. I uninstall every app that I don't use. While the program
specific apps don't really matter because they only run when a program
does, several of the default apps are global. And that means they're
running constantly whether you use them or not. So things like the Jaws
key app and several others I can't remember right now get thrown out the
window so to speak. Windows is Windows and apps are just programs. And
the more programs you have running at once the more taxed and less
stable Windows becomes. It's just the nature of the beast. Multi-tasking
is somewhat of an illusion on these systems. They somewhat kind of sort
of multi-task, but only a system with parallel processors is capable of
true independent multi-tasking. And that never came to be once they
figured out how to stack up cores. So we're more or less floating around
in the giant chasm of gray matter in the Windows galaxy.
Regards,
Tom
On 12/14/2011 7:41 PM, Veronica Elsea wrote:
I think it's too easy for everyone to look for a quick answer, making it
so convenient to come down on a particular user. I have a very powerful
machine, not assembled by any brand name, a very clean fresh install of
Windows 7 Pro and I have certainly had my issues with Window-eyes. Right
now I'm running with apps turned off and I'm enjoying it so much that I
can't bring myself to turn them back on yet. But just as important as
which brand or flavor of the day machine we have is what we're doing on
it. Some of us run one program at a time. Some of us have a zillion
different things open at once. Some of us only have a couple of things
that load on startup and appear in our system tray while some of us have
never even heard of MS-config. Even in any installation of Windows,
there's a huge variety in which services may be turned on, which
features are enabled, etc. We all need different environments and a
screen reader should be designed to allow us to work as we choose or
need. I don't think we should blame the user who buys an expensive
powerful machine, expecting to handle a heavy work load to strip it down
just so the screen reader will behave. It's certainly possible that
there are certain combinations of applications or programs that cause
Window-eyes to tangle, thanks to all the ridiculous complexities
introduced in Windows 7. But it's not the fault of the person who wants
to run those programs. If you're not having any problems, it could be
that you just managed to hit the right combination of stuff. I know that
as I type this message in Eudora, periodically key echo just stops and I
have to wait a minute or so for Window-eyes to catch up. Then I can
continue writing again. I have no idea why and I know that Eudora isn't
the latest thing out there. But I do know that were I sighted, using
this program, there would be no interruption. So whatever it is,
Window-eyes is involved in the mix in some way. I know that some of the
problems are related to mirror drivers somehow. All of us using Windows
7 have to live with this one, regardless of brand of machine or programs
we run. I know there are things that tangle all of the screen readers
and there are things that seem to get only Window-eyes. I don't know the
programming down in the depths but obviously this points to differences
in how different applications interact with Windows and each other.
I just wish I hadn't had to spend so much time trouble-shooting,
recovering from installation goofs around apps, and the like. If I know
I'm running a beta, fine. I expect things to happen which I report. What
would really help is perhaps to include a list of known issues in the
release notes so that we wouldn't each have to make the discoveries
ourselves, using up a lot of time. The more communication available, the
easier it is to get through messy stuff. For instance, if there had been
a note saying something like, Eudora will run under Windows 7 but the
graphic labels will not read and you may experience, and so on and so
forth, then I wouldn't have been surprised when I tried to use the
program, trying to fix the graphics, etc.
I've been around enough to know that no software is perfect and every
piece of software does something that just drives me up the wall. But in
the overall picture, there is a threshhold of the level of difficulty
with any program that moves it from the great category to that of
interfering with good functionality and the clues to where it stands are
important. I can say that for me, the way I work, there are things that
happened in 7.5.1 that no longer happen now. There are things that never
got me before that get me now. And as I've said, I'm actually enjoying
Internet Explorer now because I don't crash every time I open a new tab.
There are some apps I kind of miss but for now I am just enjoying not
thinking about my screen reader that much.
And who knows! Maybe Santa will bring us an update! <laughing!>
I do appreciate the contact we have with support staff. They've gotten
me out of several tangles over the past two months. And I assume that
when they hear several of us say that it seems that Window-eyes is less
stable since all these apps have come into existence, that someone in
there is looking at why this might be happening. So in the end, even the
somewhat negative and frustrating messages are valuable because
something important could get fixed. So, come on Santa! And thanks to
the elves who are listening!
Veronica
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