you really went back and looked?
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert C
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 8:34 PM
To: Richard G Applegate
Cc: 'Katherine Moss' ; 'James Mannion' ; 'Tony_C'
Subject: Re: Sleepy WE
Is that so? Where did I mess up? I looked, and cannot find any errors
in my messages.
Quote of the nanosecond...
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
Robert & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn
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On 12/17/2011 6:24 PM, Richard G Applegate wrote:
And so does Robert. In fact, he did so in his message below
time-stamped
1:55 PM. I would take this to mean one of two things: Either his
critique
was not serious, or he's guilty of the same carelessness he attributes to
others.
-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Moss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 6:32 PM
To: Robert C; James Mannion
Cc: Tony_C; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Sleepy WE
I make typos all the time.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert C [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:33 PM
To: James Mannion
Cc: Tony_C; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sleepy WE
If more people did take their language skills more seriously... Nah,
no point.
Quote of the nanosecond...
She was at the beauty shop for two hours. That was only for the estimate.
She got a mudpack and looked great for two days. Then the mud fell off.
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On 12/17/2011 2:18 PM, James Mannion wrote:
You are all taking this waay too seriously! A typo in an email list
posting does not indicate everything about a person and their work
ethic or anything like that! I think if it does to you, that is a
personal opinion and is not necessary to impose on everyone else.
On 12/17/11, Tony_C<[email protected]> wrote:
I didn't use it I simply don't bother. And you are correct, It's not
for you to worry about.
Again, Have a nce day
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert C
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:55 PM
To: Tony_C
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sleepy WE
If its not a valid excuse why do it then? If you applied this same
proinciple to your work, you think you would get much work sent to you?
Likewise, if you ordered parts and some low paid human picked the
wrong parts or you gave the wrong information and was given the wrong
parts, how long would it take before you got with the program? ;) But
at any rate, its not for me to worry about.
Quote of the nanosecond...
Me no here. Me go bye. Leave me message. Me reply.
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On 12/17/2011 11:30 AM, Tony_C wrote:
Nope! That's not what I'm saying at all. It is important but also
sometimes if I'm in the middle o taking in equipment or ordering
parts I don't really have the extra time. That is not really a valid
excuse I know but since I work as a mechanic my hands are often
greasy and while I am waiting on my parts person to get back with
parts I have a few minutes to wash my hands and have a smoke, a
coke, and check my mail. I work on quite a bit of commercial
equipment and the contractors want it fixed and ready like an hour
before they bring it to me. I work for myself don't have a boss
riding me but I'm also the guy that don't get paid if the work don't go
out either.
Have a nice day,
T C
-----Original Message----- From: Robert C
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 1:14 PM
To: Tony_C
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sleepy WE
So you are saying that good language skills are not important here?
That is quite unfortunate and a mindset such as yours does not help
the blind improve their lives, especially in the job market.
Quote of the nanosecond...
Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow.
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On 12/17/2011 10:48 AM, Tony_C wrote:
If it were something important I would use spell check or at least
proof read. However I am somewhat busy and and if there's an extra
p in crappppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp then ow well
-----Original Message----- From: Robert C
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 12:19 PM
To: Tony_C
Cc: Michael Massey ; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sleepy WE
It would be asking way too much of people to proofread their
emails. So I wont go there. ;)
Quote of the nanosecond...
What's the use of happiness? It can't buy you money.
--Henny Youngman
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On 12/17/2011 6:26 AM, Tony_C wrote:
Hi David,
Sorry, Automatically
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Massey
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:12 AM
To: 'Tony_C'
Subject: RE: Sleepy WE
Tony. Chuckling! Sorry, but what in the hell kind of a word is
automatacitall? Man, I wish folks would use the spell check or at
least proofread their messages before sending them. Wow!
Mike M.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony_C [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 3:13 AM
To: David Helkenn; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sleepy WE
Hi David,
I also have a new Del with Win 7 64 .
One thing it to go to the control panel and sounds and turn off
audio enhancments. Another is to go to remove programs and get rid
of all of the DEL support and crapware. Doing this will help you a
lot. Windows 7 for what ever reason has some problems with the
sound drivers. This has been an on-going problem. I think that if
you notice when you loose W E 99% of the time you will also loose
all the windows sounds too. Turning of the audio enhancements will
lessen the occassions that this happens. Also you may want to set
your windows update to notify you when an update is available but
not to automatacitall install it. That way you can be sure not to
have something install that is going to cause problems.
The biggest thing is to get rid of all the Del crap in the remove
programs.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: David Helkenn
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 10:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Sleepy WE
Hello, WE Users,
I thought I would share my experience and observations about
WE7.5.2 on my Windows 7 Pro 64Bit machine, which is a month old
(Dell XPS8300).
1. Get out of all programs and put yourself on the desktop. WE
speaking just fine.
2. Go to dinner. No one home but me and my wife. Big security
deal, right?E xpect to be back online in about 45 minutes. So, why
"log out?"
3. Just ignore the system setting of ten minutes for the display
to go off and the one hour idle time before the computer goes to
sleep mode.
Hey, this sounds pretty reasonable, right?
4. Come back from a very tasty dinner. and WE is still asleep,
even after I touch the left control key just once. The machine's
drive kicks in.
the Fan
starts and all seems well. But WE still sleeps. No talking of any
kind.
5. I believe I'm at the 'password' prompt since I've seen this
sleepy behavior before. So I type in my password thinking maybe WE
will awaken.
(Maybe I should call WE Snow White?) No speech. Only silence.
6. Get wife (who is sighted) to look at screen (which is awake)
and tell me where the computer is. It's on the desktop. Since WE
is still asleep, I try the Ctrl-\ to get into the control panel of
WE.
Sure enough, I'm there. Go through the shut down of WE and it
seems to shut down. At least there is no indication that my wife
can see that WE is in fact shut down., or awake for that matter
7. Hit Ctrl-Alt-w, the default 'factory setting" hot key to get WE
running again. Wife observes a brief moment when the WE control
panel appears, only to disappear in nodville. Because, you see, WE
is off to visit Rip Van Winkle. Nothing, no speech.
8. Wife selects 'log out' option and when the 'login' screen
appears, she switches from my WE dependent 'Dave' account to her
own account and logs in.
Since she doesn't need WE, it does not start and all seems just fine.
Her
account works very nicely. She looks over the weather page and logs
off.
9. After she logs off, WE is still sedated and the normally
talking login screen remains quiet. Using the arrow keys to bounce
around the various user names remains mute. Very disturbing since
WE seems truly gone.<tears of
sorrow>
10. With wife's help, I log in hoping against hope that WE will
truly start after the account is set up by MS Windows. No luck.
She sees the quick flash of the WE control panel again and there
may be a pulse, but alas, no.
It is
not to be. WE has become a zombie. It is not really dead as it
will not come to life with the ctrl-alt-w start up hot key. It is
not alive because it does not speak. It cannot be killed either.
It cannot be resurrected unless I have my wife try the restart
option. Even then, the machine does not cooperate. I'm a little
fuzzy on the exact sequence here. I only know that I have to
recycle power for things to return to what passes for normal any
more.
I think MS windows and WE and perhaps many other programs are
engaged in a race. I say this bbecause once WE is talking after
the start up sequence, three, and sometimes four, different
programs stick their nose in my face.
According to the windows title bar, read with ctrl-shift-t, I may
hear the infamous "amd:CCC-En Capturing Window,"
"volume panel," "Gladinet," (from the Nuance OnmiPagePro18
installation for its Gladiator cloud drive, and sometimes even a
"'mage viewer" but I'm not sure of the wording of the last one.
After clearing all the windows (only one is ever 'on top',) I will
get the desktop, maybe with, and maybe without, focus. "Window-d"
gets focus back in focus and I'm off and running.
So, are there race conditions here? I had Dell's tech support, a
very helpful and patient fellow in India, remove the Catalyst
Control Center, as my feeble attempt only resulted in a slight
delay in its resumption of life in my machine. Even the Dell's
tech removal lasted only a day or two. I figured since I have
Windows 7 automatically updating itself with only the 'important'
update on a daily (at
midnight) basis, maybe the "Cat" comes back the very next day with
a little help from its friends -- W7 or Dell?
Sorry if this post is rather lengthy, but I think others may be
able to replicate this behavior if it is laid out in some detail.
Maybe even GW staff can to the same.
btw, GW, I had the Dell support tech remove all of Mcafee in its
entirety since I use Eset Smart Security with ten months to run on
that contract. As an aside, if someone could direct me to how to
change the length of time the various notices stay on screen so I
can actually click the notification, I'd appreciate that!
David Helkenn, San Diego
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