Guess, it is just as much of a paradox, as if you go and buy a car, then drive it back home in your garage, and then walk over and jump the bus on your way to work. Installing the accessibility part, only is half the way. If the software developer never tells his software to make use of what is in the "garage", it doesn't help a bit. You could have installed five times as much accessibility stuff on your computer, long as the software is not being designed to make use of it, it is not going to brighten your day.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Clower" <[email protected]>
To: "Dave Bahr" <[email protected]>
Cc: "gw-info" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: QT applications


Dave,

Crazy as it sounds, that's exactly what I'm saying. Imho, accessibility shouldn't be optional, but that's a diatribe for another day.

Steve



On 9/4/2012 3:27 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:
great! thanks for that. So, just to verrify, it is possible for the
accessible widgets to be installed but the application can still be
inaccessible? seems paradoxical, please correct me if I'm wrong?

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On 9/4/2012 12:10 PM, Stephen Clower wrote:
Dave,

A good starting point is the QT Accessibility page at
http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/accessible.html. Generally, if
the author is using standard widgets, he just needs to compile in
accessibility support.

Steve


On 9/4/2012 2:07 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:
ok, that all makes sense. My question though is, how can I advise the
author of the program to make it accessible? I know nothing about the qt
framework. Most people don't like to hear that their program is just
inaccessible, it's nice to give them suggestions at least that they can
act upon if they want.

Dave C. Bahr
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On 9/4/2012 8:41 AM, Stephen Clower wrote:
Dave,

Typically if the accessible widgets aren't improving access to a QT
program, then they are using a custom control set which provides no
accessibility data, the widget library isn't compatible with the
version of QT used to build the app or, what is most probable, is that
accessibility support has been disabled for the program.
Unfortunately, the means by which QT implements accessibility severely
limits what any screen reader can do. Essentially, if accessibility is
disabled, our hands are tied as there is no fallback method to get any
useful context about where you are in a QT app as there is with Win32
programs. In this case I recommend contacting the program's author
directly and letting them know their program isn't accessible.

Regards,
Steve



On 9/3/2012 6:04 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:
Hi list,

I was wondering if anyone had any success accessing QT applications? I
have installed the QT-support App but have not had any luck with it.
When I start a QT application for the first time, I get the message
that
the accessible widgets have not been installed, would I like to
install
them now? I click yes but when the application is restarted there
is not
anything except a Treeview with nothing in it. I'm wondering if the
QT-support app and the widgets are conflicting with each other?
This is
a pity because there are some great open source applications out there that use the QT framework and I would love to experiment with them but
they are not accessible. Does anyone have an idea about how to
troubleshoot this? Any suggestions are appreciated. Also, I've noticed
that the QT-support app has not been updated for a while. Is this the
reason some modern QT-based frameworks are not working? Thanks,

Dave C. Bahr
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