Yes true but she is not going to want to ask for a help dialog every time
she runs in to a control. She just needs a quick reminder what to do with
control x when she incounters it. 
For example 
Name edit box type text.  Or yes button choose with space.  Something like
that.  


-----Original Message-----
From: Trenton Matthews [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:04 AM
To: Jim Grimsby JR.
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Browse mode with control hotkey

Greetings!

Although you could press ctrl-shift-question to get a description of where
you are, that does not work with browse mode. Doesn't matter if its on, or
off.

On 10/23/12, Jim Grimsby JR. <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yep it sure does.  I have seen the situation you describe.  It is a pain.
> I said I wasn't going to do this but I just can't resist sorry.
> What about a keyboard layout that will allow you to step threw brows 
> mode with out interfaring with the underlaying program.
> For example if you hold down the caps lock key and press a brows mode 
> command the buffer is moved threw.  Of course you could still have the 
> option to turn it on and off but you could also choose to never have 
> the keys interfair with the program and use the window-eyes prefix you
define.
> Of course this means we need more prefixes.  The idea that we need 
> another insert key I just don't agree with. Capslock should act as 
> it's own modifier key.  If a command is defined to the windows key 
> then the window-eyes command should take over and the pass threw 
> command should be used to pass it threw.  If this was done all 
> commands for the mouse could be put on the windows keys for the 
> numpad.  Commands for reading relative to the insertion pointer or the 
> window could be on insert numpad commands.  And of course commands for 
> brows mode could be on the capslock and what ever keys.  No more 
> passing lots of commands threw or turning on and off modes or cursors 
> or what ever.
> That being said I tried the insert key layout mode and am now turning 
> it back off.
> Oh one more thing. A good idea for window-eyes would be a tutor app 
> with the new insert key layout I can get my girl friend to switch to 
> window-eyes.
> If
> it only had a tutor  app so when you land on a button you are reminded 
> what to do with it.  I personaly don't need this but I know a lot of 
> people who do.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 3:25 AM
> To: GW Info List
> Subject: Re: Browse mode with control hotkey
>
> Hi Dave and others wondering about the arrow keys and auto-Browse Mode 
> on/off, if you are out of Browse mode and you are tabbing and you tab 
> to another button, check box, radio button, or edit box, you will 
> remain out of Browse Mode. If however you tab to a link, then you are 
> put back in Browse Mode and can use the arrow keys. During your 
> browsing, using the arrow keys will always keep you in Browse Mode. 
> Also, if you want to get back into Browse Mode, you can just hit the 
> escape key as well.
> Think of this situation, some have asked why not the arrow keys can be 
> used to toggle BM on and off, this is because what if you are arrowing 
> down and you come to a multi-line edit box, what will the arrow keys 
> do now, will they up and down arrow still, but keep you in the box, or 
> what happens after you get to the bottom of the multi-line edit box? 
> This sounds like a tech support nightmare if you ask me, and believe 
> me, I have experience in tech support <smile>. So, by GW doing it this 
> way, arrows will be consistent in keeping you in Browse Mode (BM) and 
> tabbing will take you out when it needs to such as check box, radio 
> button, button, or edit boxes are encountered.
>
> I hope this make sense.
>
>
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
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> On 10/23/2012 1:31 AM, Dave Bahr wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> It appears that the browse mode control when using tab works 
>> perfectly fine. However, I was wondering if it was possible to change 
>> the behavior if you use the arrow keys or the control hotkey, which 
>> is the C. When I tab out of the form that I'm entering data into, 
>> browse mode is not turned back on. Is this intentional? If so, why? --
Dave C.
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