19 Messages:
#1
Subject: The W-E control panel and the system tray
From: Reg Webb<[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:14:16 +0000
Hi
I'm running W-E8 under XP, and I have it set to run in the system tray.
When I open the control panel to get an app update for example, the
control panel refuses to go back to the system tray when I close out
the updater, and press escape to close the control panel. I have to
kill W-E and restart it to get it to behave. Is this currently inevitable?
Reg Webb
#2
Subject: A few observations
From: Brandon Miller<[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:54:53 -0800
Hello everyone, my name is Brandon Miller. I've never posted to this
list before, but I've known about it for years and as someone who has
been a Window-eyes user for a very, very long time, I'd like to see if
there's anything I can do that may help to remedy some of the problems
written about in the last digest list I got. For reference, I've been a
user of Gw Micro products since the Vocal Eyes days! For those who may
not know, Vocal Eyes was a screen reader for the Ms Dos operating
system. Anyway, here are my observations:
1. To Bob Jutzi, and Andrea Sherry. The only synthesizers that I
personally use are Eloquence, and a version of the RealSpeak Jill voice
that I got last summer from Nextup.com. I bought the 22 KHZ version and
I love it. I use it on a daily basis, and I at least do not experience
the mispronunciations that you are. I feel like one thing that makes
things confusing is that there are several companies willing to sell TTS
(or text-to-speech) voices, and although I haven't ever tried to
definitively prove this, I believe that the voices are mostly all just
given different names by different companies for marketing purposes. In
other words, what I'm saying is that to me, it sounds like the actual
sampled data used to create the voices is all the same, and just given
different names for the sake of marketing by different companies. I do
know for a fact that the company Nuance is a very heavy hitter, and they
have in truth actually put in a lot of time and energy to develop their
own original products and technologies. I also like and respect
Loquendo, Cepstral, and Ivona as far as TTS voice development companies
are concerned, pretty much in that order. As far as solutions for the
annoyances that you're experiencing, what you were told about the
Extended dictionary ap makes a lot of sense. I used to have it
installed, and it may in fact be a solution for you because with it, you
can indeed define specific pronunciations for specific synthesizers.
It's a very powerful app and I have a lot of respect for the person who
developed it. They obviously put a lot of time and hard work in to it.
2. To manny. I completely agree with Steve Jacobson's suggestion.
Proceeding with his suggestion should in fact work flawlessly, because
it's essentially the exact same thing as inserting a CD into a CD drive
and running through the setup procedure that way. What may have caused
the problem that you experienced has to do with the original setup
procedure making various registry entries, updates, modifications, Etc.
as Window-Eyes in being newly installed. The registry on your computer
post Window-Eyes installation could in fact be vastly different from the
registry on your friend's computer, and that's what could cause
installation errors to occur using the method that you tried to use.
Taking Steve's suggestion would be the exact same thing as doing a fresh
install, which should eliminate the possibility of a bad install altogether
3. To Sandy. I am unfortunately experiencing the exact same kind of
browse mode problems that you are.. I've called and spoke with the tech
support department of Gw Micro, and have been basically told to hold on,
hang tight, that they're aware of the issue but because it's relatively
hard to reproduce on command, more investigation is going to have to be
done on their part. They did suggest redrawing the screen when these
annoyances occur to see if that solves the problem, but for me at least,
it annoyingly does not. One work around that I've found is to alt-tab
away from the app that's giving you problems, and do make sure that you
actually let go of the alt key so that focus is actually moved in to
another application altogether, and then alt-tab back in to your
original app. That's the only thing I've found that works. Also, I told
the tech support team at Gw Micro that I'm experiencing the behavior in
both the Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox web browsers, so it's not
a problem that can be relieved by simply switching browsers, if you're
even the kind of person who would do that. Firefox sometimes actually
seems to almost freeze up altogether. As soon as I notice that
happening, although I almost immediately alt-tab to Window-eyes, even
though by that point I should be completely outside of the Firefox
application, Window-eyes' responsiveness remains extremely sluggish and
delayed for some time after. I know my personal system setup so well
that I can actually audibly hear load increasing and decreasing on my
processor. Speaking of that, for reference, your system seems much more
modern than mine. Haha, I use a Windows XP tower setup, I've got service
pack 3 installed, I'm completely up-to-date as far as Windows update is
concerned, I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials as my malware
solution, I have that app run a full system scan weekly and I do have
automatic updating turned on. My hardware is as follows. I have a
Pentium 4 processor running at 2.00 GHZ, I have 4 gigs of DDR ram
installed as that's all that this particular motherboard will support,
my primary hard drive is a 20 gigabyte drive, and my secondary drive is
a 120 gigabyte drive. As far as web browsing and online connectivity is
concerned, I have Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702, installed, and
Firefox version 18.0.2. I use Thunderbird 17.0.2 as my email client. In
short, I am a highly advanced computer user. I hold the MCSE
certification, so the long and the short of things is that it has
nothing to do with my system. I know my system, intimately, and I did
not begin noticing this behavior from Window-eyes until I installed
Window-eyes 8. As an example of how picky I am about the maintenance of
my machine, when I received the CD version of my WE 8 upgrade, I made
careful note of what apps I had installed, then I completely uninstalled
We 7.5.2 or whatever the last iteration of the WE 7.5 life cycle was,
and installed a brand-new, fresh, clean copy of Window-eyes 8.0. In
short though, you aren't alone Sandy, but I unfortunately don't know
what to tell you as far as how to remedy your particular problem. It
appears to affect both modern and legacy systems, and modern and legacy
apps. Hopefully Gw Micro will be able to address this issue soon.
