Thanks to all for your help,
I got WE8 installed from a flash as suggested.
I have some observations to share.
WE8 on a new windows 8 will not read the screen with the numpad.
Even though I am using the same WE8 profile that I use when I dual boot
to windows 7 on the same computer.
The same holds true when trying to read the screen with the numpad on my
friends windows7 notebook.
It was suggested to change the keyboard layout and I tried both the
default and laptop layout and the numpad does not work for reading the
screen.
Today I was opening a google email account for my friend and when I got
to a combo box to select the month of birth I could not select a month.
I tried in windows 7 with i e 7 and in windows 8 with i e 10 but I could
not select the month.
I needed to shut down WE8 and get sighted help.
Any thoughts?
Many thanks,
Manny
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computer specifications: Window Eyes 8 Dell xps420 with 8 gb memory c p
u: Intel q6600 quad core dual boot between Windows 7 64-bit and windows
8 64 bit all software and drivers are up to date
On 2/11/2013 11:35 PM, Brandon Miller wrote:
> @Thomas N. Chan I like your thinking'. And again Manny, if you just
literally copy the Window-eyes CD verbatim to any other kind of media
and run the installer that way it should definitely work. Reason being
that although I didn't know about what Thomas said, if you've got a
verbatim copy of the original Window-eyes CD, even if it is in an
alternative form, it could copy and create and update whatever (if
anything) it needed to dynamically.
>
> Regarding the browse mode behavior debate, I'd just like to weigh in
here with my thoughts, those being that I believe the redesigned browse
mode behavior could be due to one of two primary reasons, if not both at
the same time. What I mean is this. Richard Applegate observed that
"Window-Eyes is placing you exactly where the Google site
> tells Window-Eyes to place you.". I believe that's the answer that
we'd get from the Gw Micro tech support staff, probably because they
would argue that they are making their best effort to ensure that
Window-eyes conforms with up-to-date web standards. Also, I (probably
like a lot of you here) have several friends who give Jaws all the
credit in the world for everything screen reader related, while
Window-eyes rarely (if ever) gets mentioned unless somebody like me as a
Window-eyes user specifically steps up and defends the capabilities of
Window-eyes. Pre window-eyes 8, a lot of the people I know who use Jaws
very much disliked the fact that Window-eyes did not automatically place
you, with forms mode turned on, in the first edit box on the page. Has
anybody else noticed that Gw Micro has recently begun making a
noticeable effort to woo Jaws users to make the switch? I'm not saying
that it is, but I am saying that it could, potentially, be connected
with that. Because Jaws users would want things that way don'tcha know,
and after all, Freedom Scientific knows best about everything, for
everybody, in every situation, everywhere! Haha, yeah. Right. Keep
tellin' yourself that. In my opinion Freedom Science Fiction is more
like it. Seriously though, I think that for the simple sake of
professionalism and corporate respectability, that Window-eyes should
indeed conform as closely as possible to the most up-to-date web
standards. Specifically with regard to technologies like ARIA and HTML5.
I eagerly await your feedback.
>
> Respectfully submitted,
>
> Brandon Dean Miller
>
>
>
> On 2/11/2013 9:00 PM, GW Micro Product Discussion Listserv wrote:
>> 19 Messages:
>>
>> #1
>> Subject: The W-E control panel and the system tray
>> From: Reg Webb<[email protected]>
>> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:14:16 +0000
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm running W-E8 under XP, and I have it set to run in the system tray.
>> When I open the control panel to get an app update for example, the
>> control panel refuses to go back to the system tray when I close out
>> the updater, and press escape to close the control panel. I have to
>> kill W-E and restart it to get it to behave. Is this currently
inevitable?
>>
>>
>>
>> Reg Webb
>>
>> #2
>> Subject: A few observations
>> From: Brandon Miller<[email protected]>
>> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:54:53 -0800
>>
>> Hello everyone, my name is Brandon Miller. I've never posted to this
>> list before, but I've known about it for years and as someone who has
>> been a Window-eyes user for a very, very long time, I'd like to see if
>> there's anything I can do that may help to remedy some of the problems
>> written about in the last digest list I got. For reference, I've been a
>> user of Gw Micro products since the Vocal Eyes days! For those who may
>> not know, Vocal Eyes was a screen reader for the Ms Dos operating
>> system. Anyway, here are my observations:
>>
>> 1. To Bob Jutzi, and Andrea Sherry. The only synthesizers that I
>> personally use are Eloquence, and a version of the RealSpeak Jill voice
>> that I got last summer from Nextup.com. I bought the 22 KHZ version and
>> I love it. I use it on a daily basis, and I at least do not experience
>> the mispronunciations that you are. I feel like one thing that makes
>> things confusing is that there are several companies willing to sell TTS
>> (or text-to-speech) voices, and although I haven't ever tried to
>> definitively prove this, I believe that the voices are mostly all just
>> given different names by different companies for marketing purposes. In
>> other words, what I'm saying is that to me, it sounds like the actual
>> sampled data used to create the voices is all the same, and just given
>> different names for the sake of marketing by different companies. I do
>> know for a fact that the company Nuance is a very heavy hitter, and they
>> have in truth actually put in a lot of time and energy to develop their
>> own original products and technologies. I also like and respect
>> Loquendo, Cepstral, and Ivona as far as TTS voice development companies
>> are concerned, pretty much in that order. As far as solutions for the
>> annoyances that you're experiencing, what you were told about the
>> Extended dictionary ap makes a lot of sense. I used to have it
>> installed, and it may in fact be a solution for you because with it, you
>> can indeed define specific pronunciations for specific synthesizers.
>> It's a very powerful app and I have a lot of respect for the person who
>> developed it. They obviously put a lot of time and hard work in to it.
>>
>> 2. To manny. I completely agree with Steve Jacobson's suggestion.
>> Proceeding with his suggestion should in fact work flawlessly, because
>> it's essentially the exact same thing as inserting a CD into a CD drive
>> and running through the setup procedure that way. What may have caused
>> the problem that you experienced has to do with the original setup
>> procedure making various registry entries, updates, modifications, Etc.
>> as Window-Eyes in being newly installed. The registry on your computer
>> post Window-Eyes installation could in fact be vastly different from the
>> registry on your friend's computer, and that's what could cause
>> installation errors to occur using the method that you tried to use.
>> Taking Steve's suggestion would be the exact same thing as doing a fresh
>> install, which should eliminate the possibility of a bad install
altogether
>>
>> 3. To Sandy. I am unfortunately experiencing the exact same kind of
>> browse mode problems that you are.. I've called and spoke with the tech
>> support department of Gw Micro, and have been basically told to hold on,
>> hang tight, that they're aware of the issue but because it's relatively
>> hard to reproduce on command, more investigation is going to have to be
>> done on their part. They did suggest redrawing the screen when these
>> annoyances occur to see if that solves the problem, but for me at least,
>> it annoyingly does not. One work around that I've found is to alt-tab
>> away from the app that's giving you problems, and do make sure that you
>> actually let go of the alt key so that focus is actually moved in to
>> another application altogether, and then alt-tab back in to your
>> original app. That's the only thing I've found that works. Also, I told
>> the tech support team at Gw Micro that I'm experiencing the behavior in
>> both the Internet Explorer and Mozilla Firefox web browsers, so it's not
>> a problem that can be relieved by simply switching browsers, if you're
>> even the kind of person who would do that. Firefox sometimes actually
>> seems to almost freeze up altogether. As soon as I notice that
>> happening, although I almost immediately alt-tab to Window-eyes, even
>> though by that point I should be completely outside of the Firefox
>> application, Window-eyes' responsiveness remains extremely sluggish and
>> delayed for some time after. I know my personal system setup so well
>> that I can actually audibly hear load increasing and decreasing on my
>> processor. Speaking of that, for reference, your system seems much more
>> modern than mine. Haha, I use a Windows XP tower setup, I've got service
>> pack 3 installed, I'm completely up-to-date as far as Windows update is
>> concerned, I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials as my malware
>> solution, I have that app run a full system scan weekly and I do have
>> automatic updating turned on. My hardware is as follows. I have a
>> Pentium 4 processor running at 2.00 GHZ, I have 4 gigs of DDR ram
>> installed as that's all that this particular motherboard will support,
>> my primary hard drive is a 20 gigabyte drive, and my secondary drive is
>> a 120 gigabyte drive. As far as web browsing and online connectivity is
>> concerned, I have Internet Explorer 8.0.6001.18702, installed, and
>> Firefox version 18.0.2. I use Thunderbird 17.0.2 as my email client. In
>> short, I am a highly advanced computer user. I hold the MCSE
>> certification, so the long and the short of things is that it has
>> nothing to do with my system. I know my system, intimately, and I did
>> not begin noticing this behavior from Window-eyes until I installed
>> Window-eyes 8. As an example of how picky I am about the maintenance of
>> my machine, when I received the CD version of my WE 8 upgrade, I made
>> careful note of what apps I had installed, then I completely uninstalled
>> We 7.5.2 or whatever the last iteration of the WE 7.5 life cycle was,
>> and installed a brand-new, fresh, clean copy of Window-eyes 8.0. In
>> short though, you aren't alone Sandy, but I unfortunately don't know
>> what to tell you as far as how to remedy your particular problem. It
>> appears to affect both modern and legacy systems, and modern and legacy
>> apps. Hopefully Gw Micro will be able to address this issue soon.
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