This has to do with me and my desire to run my own TeamSpeak server on my own 
hardware.  I gave you the reasons why I don't like TeamTalk though aside from 
the SDK thing.  TeamSpeak allows development to be open source, TeamTalk 
doesn't.  But more importantly, TeamSpeak allows the administrator to not have 
to keep information that they shouldn't have around such as when setting up a 
TeamTalk server, there is no option for users to register themselves, and if 
I'm going to have a server of any kind, I don't want to know the passwords and 
credentials of my users; that is a very bad security practice, and until 
TeamTalk is developed in a way in which users can register themselves, I will 
not use it.  I have no interest in custom development right now, but when I get 
there, I'd like to be able to distribute add-ons and stuff freely which 
TeamSpeak allows you to do.  I just want a security-aware environment for 
people and TeamTalk does not provide that.  But what I don't get is if the 
TeamSpeak team wrote a special client that uses an older version of the QT 
framework and was tested to be accessible, then why does it look no different 
than the normal client?  I was told that it would and that it worked with all 
screen readers.  I just want to know that I have not been outright lied to, and 
then to help users work these things out on the development side of things.  I 
mean, Window-Eyes has QT support, yet I've not found a single QT application 
that works with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: WE 8 and TeamSpeak: what's everyone's experience?

Hi Katherine,

Do you want to develop for one of these or just use it?  I want you to know 
I've had great experience using TeamTalk; so good that I've never felt the need 
to work on anything else, and its developer also provides a special version of 
the client which is written for accessibility.  There are also public servers 
available so that you don't need to run your own.

I conducted all of the scripting classes using TeamTalk, recording the output, 
and it worked fine for us.

If you have special needs for developing that relate to accessibility, why 
don't you ask the author of TeamTalk if he'll provide you with a free sdk for 
your development (since you seem to be having difficulties with TeamSpeak)?

Hth,

Chip



-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Moss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: WE 8 and TeamSpeak: what's everyone's expereience?

Hey all.
I'm wondering if there are a lot of you who use TeamSpeak?  Maybe somebody runs 
and/or connects to a server run by someone else? I'm asking this question 
because according to the developers of TeamSpeak, they take accessibility very 
seriously, and so have provided a client written with an older version of the 
QT framework since the newest version has a bug that prohibits screen readers 
from working with it at all apparently.  Well even with this "special" client, 
I don't see any difference at all, and so I'm wondering if this is just a lazy 
developer's way of covering up the fact that they actually don't care.  Have 
you guys had better results?  And I could use TeamTalk for my voice server, 
yes, but I refuse to, due to both security reasons (administrators have to know 
the password of every user and I do not like that, being a security conscious 
technologist), and politics; the developer charges outrageous prices for his 
SDK to develop against the TeamTalk API and TeamSpeak's SDK is free for certain 
types of projects, so I prefer TeamSpeak over TeamTalk for those reasons.  Have 
you guys gotten TeamSpeak to work with Window-Eyes 8?  Thanks for any feedback.
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