Note, too, that the QT Support app will assist only if the program in
question is using the standard widget set provided in QT 4.6 or 4.7, and
the program must be built in such a way as to allow the accessible
widgets to be installed into its own directory. If your application is
built against QT 5, then you will need Window-Eyes 8.2. The QT Support
app will not function for QT 5-based programs.
Regards,
Steve
On 5/11/2013 8:07 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
If QT is the problem, I have found that installing the original QT app
(written by Steve Clower) did help me in a situation with a program using
QT, where WE wasn't reading it's output. You could try installing this app
(it's still available on app central, and is named something beginning with
QT). If it solves the problem, I'd suggest writing to GW support and
telling them about it.
Or, you could get a copy of NVDA and run it (you don't have to install it,
you can just run it as in its "mobile" mode where it doesn't install) and
see how it does. If it too fails with TeamSpeak, you could write to them
and tell them you've tested with two screen readers and it's not working;
ask them to consider downloading the demo version of Window-Eyes and trying
it themselves.
Chip
-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Moss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:38 PM
To: Chip Orange; [email protected]
Subject: RE: WE 8 and TeamSpeak: what's everyone's experience?
This has to do with me and my desire to run my own TeamSpeak server on my
own hardware. I gave you the reasons why I don't like TeamTalk though aside
from the SDK thing. TeamSpeak allows development to be open source,
TeamTalk doesn't. But more importantly, TeamSpeak allows the administrator
to not have to keep information that they shouldn't have around such as when
setting up a TeamTalk server, there is no option for users to register
themselves, and if I'm going to have a server of any kind, I don't want to
know the passwords and credentials of my users; that is a very bad security
practice, and until TeamTalk is developed in a way in which users can
register themselves, I will not use it. I have no interest in custom
development right now, but when I get there, I'd like to be able to
distribute add-ons and stuff freely which TeamSpeak allows you to do. I
just want a security-aware environment for people and TeamTalk does not
provide that. But what I don't get is if the TeamSpeak team wrote a special
client that uses an older version of the QT framework and was tested to be
accessible, then why does it look no different than the normal client? I
was told that it would and that it worked with all screen readers. I just
want to know that I have not been outright lied to, and then to help users
work these things out on the development side of things. I mean,
Window-Eyes has QT support, yet I've not found a single QT application that
works with it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 6:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: WE 8 and TeamSpeak: what's everyone's experience?
Hi Katherine,
Do you want to develop for one of these or just use it? I want you to know
I've had great experience using TeamTalk; so good that I've never felt the
need to work on anything else, and its developer also provides a special
version of the client which is written for accessibility. There are also
public servers available so that you don't need to run your own.
I conducted all of the scripting classes using TeamTalk, recording the
output, and it worked fine for us.
If you have special needs for developing that relate to accessibility, why
don't you ask the author of TeamTalk if he'll provide you with a free sdk
for your development (since you seem to be having difficulties with
TeamSpeak)?
Hth,
Chip
-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Moss [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: WE 8 and TeamSpeak: what's everyone's expereience?
Hey all.
I'm wondering if there are a lot of you who use TeamSpeak? Maybe somebody
runs and/or connects to a server run by someone else? I'm asking this
question because according to the developers of TeamSpeak, they take
accessibility very seriously, and so have provided a client written with an
older version of the QT framework since the newest version has a bug that
prohibits screen readers from working with it at all apparently. Well even
with this "special" client, I don't see any difference at all, and so I'm
wondering if this is just a lazy developer's way of covering up the fact
that they actually don't care. Have you guys had better results? And I
could use TeamTalk for my voice server, yes, but I refuse to, due to both
security reasons (administrators have to know the password of every user and
I do not like that, being a security conscious technologist), and politics;
the developer charges outrageous prices for his SDK to develop against the
TeamTalk API and TeamSpeak's SDK is free for certain types of projects, so I
prefer TeamSpeak over TeamTalk for those reasons. Have you guys gotten
TeamSpeak to work with Window-Eyes 8? Thanks for any feedback.
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