Max,

I think you have all the pieces of the puzzle but they arrived in various 
explanations.  When you are in the start menu and you 
type in something in the search box, the results are in the form of a list of 
matches without regard to where they came from for 
the mostpart or without any sort of tree view.  Pressing ENTER on any of those 
results will generally execute the particular item.

Before you type anything into the Start Menu Search box, you can SHIFT TAB once 
or tab around the other way until you get to the 
"All Programs" button.  You can press that button by pressing SPACE.  When you 
push that button, it changes to a "Back" button, 
although Window-Eyes doesn't say that for me automatically but I can verify it 
with CONTROL NUMPAD 5 or the Speak Summary key.  
Now, if you SHIFT TAB, you will be on the tree view that people talked about.  
Focus seems to start at the bottom.  For me, it is 
on the Windows Live branch and it is closed.  You could find yourself right on 
the Window-Eyes branch, if you don't have a Windows 
Live branch, or you could have something completely different depending upon 
what you have installed.  However, if you press the 
UP ARROW, you should get to the Window-Eyes branch pretty quickly.  Pressing 
the RIGHT ARROW key will open the branch.  ENTER coes 
nothing when the branch is closed.  Once it is open, you can press DOWN ARROW 
to move through the choices, Window-Eyes, Advanced 
Options, and Documentation.  You will notice that Advanced Options and 
Documentation both say "Closed" indicating that they are 
sub-branches that have additional options if opened.  This is different in a 
number of ways than going into a folder on the old 
start menu, but the most obvious is if you DOWN ARROW or UP ARROW past the end 
or beginning of the Window-Eyes group, you will see 
the rest of the original tree.  If you navigate to Advanced Options and then 
press RIGHT ARROW, you will see both the Install and 
Uninstall Java Access Bridge entries along with Virtual Channel maintenance.  

How you get there is a personal choice.  However, by exploring the tree, I have 
found entries that I wouldn't have known to search 
for on my own.  I hope this pulls some of it together, and please understand I 
may not have all of the terms right.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson
  

On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:49:44 -0500, Max G. Swanson wrote:

>Thanks to all for the Access Bridge info; had to use the search-box
>method.  Can someone explain what this W.E. startup group is anyway?
>   If I type Window into the search box eventually I'll get to
>Window-Eyes, but there's no possibility of opening a tgreeview as
>indicated in one of the msgs.  Hit Enter and it just says, Window-Eyes
>already running, which is certainly true.

>Does this mean the start menu item got deleted?  Is it worth getting back,
>as long as we have the Win7 Search Box, my favorite feature of this OS
>anyway.
>-- 
>"Americans must know the basic architecture of programs designed to
>protect them."(Senator Franken.) Regards, Max.


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