Good explanation, Steve. But here's an even quicker and easier way that
I posted in an earlier reply.
From the start menu search box just up arrow once and you'll land on
the Show all button.
Press space bar.
Now just cursor up again and you'll come in at the bottom of the list.
And like you said, depending on what you have installed Window-Eyes
should be one of the first few items. I cursor up once and land on Win
Lame MP3 encoder, again and I hear, Window-Eyes, closed. I then right
arrow to open it and navigate it's contents as you explained.
Hth,
Tom
On 7/22/2013 4:38 PM, Steve Jacobson wrote:
Max,
I think you have all the pieces of the puzzle but they arrived in various
explanations. When you are in the start menu and you
type in something in the search box, the results are in the form of a list of
matches without regard to where they came from for
the mostpart or without any sort of tree view. Pressing ENTER on any of those
results will generally execute the particular item.
Before you type anything into the Start Menu Search box, you can SHIFT TAB once
or tab around the other way until you get to the
"All Programs" button. You can press that button by pressing SPACE. When you push that
button, it changes to a "Back" button,
although Window-Eyes doesn't say that for me automatically but I can verify it
with CONTROL NUMPAD 5 or the Speak Summary key.
Now, if you SHIFT TAB, you will be on the tree view that people talked about.
Focus seems to start at the bottom. For me, it is
on the Windows Live branch and it is closed. You could find yourself right on
the Window-Eyes branch, if you don't have a Windows
Live branch, or you could have something completely different depending upon
what you have installed. However, if you press the
UP ARROW, you should get to the Window-Eyes branch pretty quickly. Pressing
the RIGHT ARROW key will open the branch. ENTER coes
nothing when the branch is closed. Once it is open, you can press DOWN ARROW
to move through the choices, Window-Eyes, Advanced
Options, and Documentation. You will notice that Advanced Options and Documentation both
say "Closed" indicating that they are
sub-branches that have additional options if opened. This is different in a
number of ways than going into a folder on the old
start menu, but the most obvious is if you DOWN ARROW or UP ARROW past the end
or beginning of the Window-Eyes group, you will see
the rest of the original tree. If you navigate to Advanced Options and then
press RIGHT ARROW, you will see both the Install and
Uninstall Java Access Bridge entries along with Virtual Channel maintenance.
How you get there is a personal choice. However, by exploring the tree, I have
found entries that I wouldn't have known to search
for on my own. I hope this pulls some of it together, and please understand I
may not have all of the terms right.
Best regards,
Steve Jacobson
On Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:49:44 -0500, Max G. Swanson wrote:
Thanks to all for the Access Bridge info; had to use the search-box
method. Can someone explain what this W.E. startup group is anyway?
If I type Window into the search box eventually I'll get to
Window-Eyes, but there's no possibility of opening a tgreeview as
indicated in one of the msgs. Hit Enter and it just says, Window-Eyes
already running, which is certainly true.
Does this mean the start menu item got deleted? Is it worth getting back,
as long as we have the Win7 Search Box, my favorite feature of this OS
anyway.
--
"Americans must know the basic architecture of programs designed to
protect them."(Senator Franken.) Regards, Max.
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