Yes, I know that the iPad Mini is not Android. I had a Nexus 7 second
generation. I did not like the Android stuff at all. I found it very difficult.
I don't even know about an IOS device. I would prefer a Windows
Tablet with Window-Eyes on it with a keyboard. <smile>
I would never have an Android tablet again.
I want a Windows tablet running Window-Eyes that I can easily install
Apps on it, and music and books. I don't want to have to use iTunes
for anything.
So, I guess I won't be getting an iPad Mini, either. They are too
expensive, and I really prefer Windows over IOS.
Thanks much.
Many Blessings,
Pat Ferguson
"I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me." Phillippians 4:13.
At 02:49 PM 1/7/2014, you wrote:
The Ipad Mini is not android. The Nexus-seven, second generation, is just
as good as the Ipad mini, and half the pridce. That's what all the
reviews say at least.
On Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:41:32 -0600 Pat Ferguson
<[email protected]> writes:
> Great explanation of the IOS touch screen.
>
> Well, I just might have to save my money and buy an iPad Mini. lol.
>
>
> Thanks much.
>
> Many Blessings,
>
> Pat Ferguson
> "I can Do all Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me."
> Phillippians 4:13.
>
> At 11:19 AM 1/7/2014, you wrote:
> >Ok, I'll take a stab at explaining the difference between the touch
>
> >screen verses a screen reader based system. A screen reader and it
>
> >doesn't matter which one it is, work the same way. They read from
>
> >left to right and top to bottom. That's the simple explanation.
> Of
> >course there are short cuts to do certain things like pressing H
> for
> >headings or L for links etc. Helpful but not informative of what
> >the screen really looks like to a sighted person.
> >
> >A sighted person will look at the screen and see there might be a
> >block of text under a picture on the top left corner of the
> >screen. There is very often something that says select from the
> >left side of the screen and place it in the right side section.
> >
> >You can wave your mouse around etc but you still don't get to see
> >what a sighted person sees.
> >
> >With a touch screen system such as on an iPhone because it's the
> >most widely used phone by the blind, your index finger becomes your
>
> >mouse pointer. There is one huge advantage here. You have feeling
>
> >in your index finger. Your brain tells you where your at on the
> >screen not the screen reader trying to describe it to you. So, as
>
> >you move your index finger around the screen, what ever is directly
>
> >under your index finger is described. If it's a block of text,
> that
> >text is read out loud to you by Voice over. There are buttons on
> >the screen at the top of the screen called status indicators. These
>
> >include signal strengths, WI-FI bars Bluetooth Status and remaining
>
> >battery power. There can be other status indicators there as
> >well. At the bottom edge are commonly used items such as phone,
> >email, Internet, or music. Between the top and bottom rows are the
>
> >apps or as we use to call them on the computer, programs.
> >
> >This is just a generalized look but there is enough here to give
> you
> >an idea of the differences. As more and more people go from
> >desktops to laptops and from laptops to portables, sails of windows
>
> >based computers keeps falling farther and farther behind that of
> >portables. Touch Screens have been around on windows laptops for
> >more years then you might think. My Toshiba laptop had a touch
> >screen and I ran Window-Eyes on it. At that time though, it was
> >optional how you wanted to use the screen and not being able to see
>
> >the screen, I went with the screen reader and turned off the touch
>
> >screen features.
> >
> >I'm looking for another computer to replace my old Netbook Computer
>
> >I used for email and web browsing. That will be replaced with an
> >iPad Air when my AT&T store gets their stock of Airs with a 128 GB
>
> >hard drive as well as WI-FI and cellular data. We enjoy traveling
>
> >in our motor home and you can't always get WI-FI and cellular data
>
> >is much easier to lay hands on.
> >
> >The windows so called tablets have been more of a joke than a
> >serious contender.
> >
> >Ok that's my take on things for what it's worth. And remember,
> it's
> >worth what you paid for it. "Nothing"
> >
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Alan
> >
> >Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act
> >now!!!!! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know
> everything.
> >
> >Please click on:
> >HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> >There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
> played on
> >the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format
> >formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks
> for listening!
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron or Susan Denis"
> ><[email protected]>
> >Cc: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 8:45 AM
> >Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
> >
> >
> >>Would those of you enamored with touch screens explain the
> >>advantage or attraction? I'm of course approaching this as one
> >>with no vision. RD
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message----- From: Jim Grimsby JR.
> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 4:43 AM
> >>To: 'David Plumlee'
> >>Cc: [email protected]
> >>Subject: RE: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
> >>
> >>Hay man I am so there. The cool thing is these bad boy have a usb
>
> >>port on them. got my self a otg cable and now you just connect a
>
> >>usb hub kick back and pound away on that old bad boy keyboard.
> The
> >>speaker on this bad boy tablit are like way loud. So you will be
> >>able to here it. now when you got to go some where you can leave
> >>the stuff at home hook up the new blue tooth keyboard that folds
> up
> >>and fits in your back pocket or get a case for the tablit and get
>
> >>going where ever. You got the touch screen and keyboard. It
> works
> >>good. Now gw micro here us again we want and we need touch. Look
>
> >>at what the other guys are doing and for god sake do it even
> beter.
> >>Not saying the others are bad but I know gw micro can do better. I
>
> >>will post some of my ideas on this subject later on.
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: David Plumlee [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:21 PM
> >>To: Chris H
> >>Cc: gwmicro
> >>Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
> >>
> >>I must admit at the outset a bias on my part: I am a confirmed
> >>knob freak at age 69. I have also operated the Apple IPhone with
>
> >>all of its gestures and touch operations; and for my part, nothing
>
> >>beats a good solid mechanical keyboard with real buttons that you
>
> >>can press to reliably get what you want!
> >>Perhaps touch screens will become more reliable as they improve;
> >>but I don't think I'd want to use a tablet computer as long as I
> >>could have something with real buttons to operate. Granted, the
> >>modern PC has no knobs; but the buttons generally carry the same
> >>reliability that you can get from knobs that you turn.
> >>
> >>But for those who want touch, gestures, and all that, I sincerely
>
> >>hope that Window-Eyes can someday soon run on such equipment. For
>
> >>my part, though, give me knobs and buttons!
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Chris H" <[email protected]>
> >>To: "Kevin Huber" <[email protected]>; "gw-info"
> <[email protected]>
> >>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:49 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Window-eyes on a Microsoft Tablet
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi
> >>>probably not, Window-Eyes does not work with touch currently.
> >>>
> >>>Regards Chris
> >>>
> >>>On 06/01/2014 19:58, Kevin Huber wrote:
> >>>>Hi:
> >>>>Can anyone tell me if Window-eyes 8 works on one of those
> Microsoft
> >>>>Windows 8 tablets? If so, which tablets does Window-eyes work
> with
> >>>>and which ones does it not work with?
> >>>>Kevin Huber
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> Many Blessings,
>
> Pat Ferguson
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